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Old 11-11-2015, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by roninofako
To me it seems like a wire feed issue. Like it's sticking, or pushing it too fast, so as it's hitting your work surface, it's pushing back a bit. Can you feel the gun moving back in your hand while doing this? Plus it's flux-core. Check your feed wheels. Have someone watch while you weld, or have someone else weld, and watch the feed wheels. See if it's slipping. If you're feeling the tip push back when you weld, turn the feed down. Best I got after watching the vid. One other thing, I know you're running flux core, but you're running without a nozzle. Have you tried putting a nozzle on as well?
it's the same with or without a nozzle. It use to slip like crazy but a friend of mine said it will slip less the more I use it. It stopped slipping after a while but maybe I should check it again. Also, i tried messing with the wire speed controls to see if that helps but nothin. I'll check for slippage and let you know. Thanks anyways. Any other tips?
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
it's the same with or without a nozzle. It use to slip like crazy but a friend of mine said it will slip less the more I use it. It stopped slipping after a while but maybe I should check it again. Also, i tried messing with the wire speed controls to see if that helps but nothin. I'll check for slippage and let you know. Thanks anyways. Any other tips?
Not until you figure out your slipping wire issue...I think it's still slipping, and stuff like that doesn't get better over time, it gets worse. Have you replaced the feed wheels?

EDIT: The feed wheels are a wear item...they should have some small grooves in them, but they may be hard to see...one other thing, check the tension on the feed wheel adjuster...

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Originally Posted by roninofako
Not until you figure out your slipping wire issue...I think it's still slipping, and stuff like that doesn't get better over time, it gets worse. Have you replaced the feed wheels?
the welder was sitting for a while and the wheels were rusty, as the wire went across the wheel, it got shiny. I got the welder from my uncle who got it on a deal when he bought a bunch of motors. I put $200 into it and here's where I'm at. The wire wheel is old from what it looks like. Also, now that I think about it. When I said it was getting less slipping, thats when my wire roll was getting low. I put a new spool on recently, maybe that's brought the slippage back. And it's the big spool too

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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
the welder was sitting for a while and the wheels were rusty, as the wire went across the wheel, it got shiny. I got the welder from my uncle who got it on a deal when he bought a bunch of motors. I put $200 into it and here's where I'm at. The wire wheel is old from what it looks like.
See my edit above. I suggest replacing the feed wheels as well. You got an old welder for a good deal, but that doesn't mean it comes without headaches, LOL...hang in there, we'll get ya fingered out, LOL
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You mentioned reverse polarity in your video but it looks like the wire is clipping or melting off at the tip rather than the work. May be worth a look-see.
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Originally Posted by roninofako
See my edit above. I suggest replacing the feed wheels as well. You got an old welder for a good deal, but that doesn't mean it comes without headaches, LOL...hang in there, we'll get ya fingered out, LOL
I also put a edit on my other post. But here what my rollers look like. The bottom roller has two grooves in it one for .35 wire and another for .23 or .30 I think. But as u can see, it got shiny on the .35 groove from use. The top roller as well has gotten shiny from use. Although the top roller looks like it had worn a groove in it, it hasn't. The tension is almost maxed out, any less causes slippage. I'll test for slippage tomorrow when I get a friend over.
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Originally Posted by ftwelder
You mentioned reverse polarity in your video but it looks like the wire is clipping or melting off at the tip rather than the work. May be worth a look-see.
double checked that and it is indeed reverse.
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Replace those feed wheels. Report back. That wire guide looks FUBAR'd as well...
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Originally Posted by roninofako
Replace those feed wheels. Report back. That wire guide looks FUBAR'd as well...
are feed wheels universal or do I need to order straight from snap-on.
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Originally Posted by 93XJeeper
are feed wheels universal or do I need to order straight from snap-on.
Think you're gonna have to get them from Snap-On...
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Originally Posted by roninofako
Think you're gonna have to get them from Snap-On...

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yeah I would say also it is a wire feed issue, have you just pulled the trigger and see if it comes out even speed, not make a arc. also make sure your torch is straight as can be they do not like kinks, I would think rollers or liner but you said you had the torch rebuilt so I assume that a new liner also. when I set my machine up I just set my heat and then pull the trigger and on scrap metal and turn the speed till it sounds right
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Originally Posted by randomguy310
yeah I would say also it is a wire feed issue, have you just pulled the trigger and see if it comes out even speed, not make a arc. also make sure your torch is straight as can be they do not like kinks, I would think rollers or liner but you said you had the torch rebuilt so I assume that a new liner also. when I set my machine up I just set my heat and then pull the trigger and on scrap metal and turn the speed till it sounds right
good idea, I'll try that too.
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flux core should have a knurled drive wheel to grip the wire.
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Here are a few tips that might help.

1) Knurled drive rollers should be used for flux cored wire. Gas or self shielded.
2) If you are using self shielded wire, you should probably be on DCEN(straight polarity) unless your wire says otherwise. What wire are you using actually? exact classification would help diagnose the problem. If it says E71T-11, you should be on DCEN.
3) Turn your settings down, I know this is odd but most self-shielded wires are meant to be run at around 17 volts and 150 wire feed speed(each machine is different but look up the wire you have online and look at the specs)
4) watch youtube videos on how to weld and read the puddle.

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