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Old 03-09-2018, 06:48 AM
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You can store your welding rods in the refrigerator to keep the moisture out.
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Originally Posted by JandDGreens View Post
Then I got into Wheeling with an XJ (my sons) and wow how handy welding class has been. It gave me the confidence to learn Mig trail by error.

I wish I could acquire a Oxy-Acetylene, Arc welding outfit and Plasma cutter Right?!
I'll give ya an "amen" to both of those statements! I'd like to be able to do it all. Very satisfying to do so.

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You can store your welding rods in the refrigerator to keep the moisture out.
Hmmph! Hadn't thought of that. My mini-fridge would be perfect for that.
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Next platform run underway, been cranking out ledgers like crazy, lol

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Originally Posted by Basslicks View Post
I'll give ya an "amen" to both of those statements! I'd like to be able to do it all. Very satisfying to do so.

Hmmph! Hadn't thought of that. My mini-fridge would be perfect for that.
Has anyone shared about preheating rod yet? Or should we leave that for later on?
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Originally Posted by roninofako View Post
Next platform run underway, been cranking out ledgers like crazy, lol

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Man those look like bot welds! Looks like they are making you earn your money for sure.
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Ugh. The younger guy we hired to weld was doing so good. "Was" being the key word. Friday I checked his welds and was like, "Whoa, hold on a second, why are you making them so fat all of the sudden?" He said he "figured out" that if he went slower that the welds would be bigger, and thus stronger. I had to let him know about something called overkill. He said he understood and would go back to how he was doing them before.

Except today he did even worse! Welds that should be about 1/4" wide were literally 3/4" wide. Called him on it and he said he would do better, but didn't. Almost seemed like he was asking to get fired. He got his wish.
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Man those look like bot welds! Looks like they are making you earn your money for sure.
Thanks...you get into a mode when doing production stuff like that. This run I built 86 of those, in different variants. Knocked 'em out in a day and a half...with interruptions, LOL
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Originally Posted by roninofako View Post
Thanks...you get into a mode when doing production stuff like that. This run I built 86 of those, in different variants. Knocked 'em out in a day and a half...with interruptions, LOL
I have to honestly say I have never been in an environment where I had to mass produce one part like that. It was always a one off or just a pair of something. I could see how a rhythm and efficiency could be dialed in with everything set up to crank them out like that. Just go on autopilot and start knocking them out. But even then that is a lot man! lol
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Has anyone shared about preheating rod yet? Or should we leave that for later on?
When you store them in the frig have the light bulb stay on then they are dry and preheated.
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Okay, I've seen a few posts about storing rod...and most of what I've seen is BS...on an INDUSTRY level.

Oven is the ONLY way to keep 7018 rod up to specs.

That said, using it at home? Different story. Industry standards are there for a reason. Quality control.

Storing rods in an old fridge with a light bulb, fine for home, not for industry.

I have even WORKED in the industry, where they just kept 7018 open in the can, at all times, on top of the welder. (Tried telling them they were shooting themselves in the foot doing this, didn't listen, and we kept having cracked welds...wonder why?)...

Keeping it to industry specs, will make the rod easier to weld...less failed arc starts, better penetration and weld quality, etc...

Keep your 7018 at home as free from moisture as you can. It WILL still weld, just not as easily, but you can get used to it....I had too, LOL

Also...if you have some 7018, and it's been exposed...you can bake it out, but you need an oven that can do a minimum of 500*F-700*F. IF you plan on doing this, find an old electric oven on CL. Set it aside, and plug it into your welder plug-in to bake before use.

ONLY if you want industry standards, LOL
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Originally Posted by roninofako View Post
Okay, I've seen a few posts about storing rod...and most of what I've seen is BS...on an INDUSTRY level.

Oven is the ONLY way to keep 7018 rod up to specs.

That said, using it at home? Different story. Industry standards are there for a reason. Quality control.

Storing rods in an old fridge with a light bulb, fine for home, not for industry.

I have even WORKED in the industry, where they just kept 7018 open in the can, at all times, on top of the welder. (Tried telling them they were shooting themselves in the foot doing this, didn't listen, and we kept having cracked welds...wonder why?)...

Keeping it to industry specs, will make the rod easier to weld...less failed arc starts, better penetration and weld quality, etc...

Keep your 7018 at home as free from moisture as you can. It WILL still weld, just not as easily, but you can get used to it....I had too, LOL

Also...if you have some 7018, and it's been exposed...you can bake it out, but you need an oven that can do a minimum of 500*F-700*F. IF you plan on doing this, find an old electric oven on CL. Set it aside, and plug it into your welder plug-in to bake before use.

ONLY if you want industry standards, LOL
Good to know, Roni. I think for practicing (initially, anyway), I won't worry about the oven. Once I'm actually using for structural stuff, I'll get an oven. Think a little toaster oven will get it hot enough?
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I found this pic on the DB Metalworx Instagram page. I want to build a roof rack completely out of the dimpled steel on the side of this rack, but formed into a sort of exoskeleton.

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Hey guys.... don't know if this is of interest to anyone else except welding newbs like me, but AWS.org is offering the Welding Fundamentals I course for FREE this whole month.

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Fair warning.... there's 29 modules each with a pre- and post- quiz along with an exam at the end. I've already started it and am on module 3 now.

They're also waiving the first-time fee for new members to AWS for this month.

https://www.aws.org/about/page/national-welding-month - just scroll down to the bottom and click on "Special AWS offerings".

Happy National Welding Month, guys!
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My previous welder got promoted to another job so tomorrow I get to train another youngster on welding. He is not much of a "shop" guy and even told me he would prefer a desk job, but his dad is a welder, so there is some hope.
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