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Old 06-21-2012, 05:26 PM
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hey i like this a lot just saying that with your wleds if u can put your finger nail under the weld u are running a lil cold the weld would just snap off the metal
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hey i like this a lot just saying that with your wleds if u can put your finger nail under the weld u are running a lil cold the weld would just snap off the metal
I know what you mean, im usually not bad at welding but with my new lincoln its this strange problem where the weld wire explodes into spatter before it makes the pool, and then if i turn it up to the next voltage setting it comes close to burning through or creating some kind of under cut, i just got to adjust my technique a little, if i where to have a welder with a little more voltage adjustment rather than just A-E, but i did go back over some of the nasty ones to make them look better
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Originally Posted by Jordan1996 ZJ

I know what you mean, im usually not bad at welding but with my new lincoln its this strange problem where the weld wire explodes into spatter before it makes the pool, and then if i turn it up to the next voltage setting it comes close to burning through or creating some kind of under cut, i just got to adjust my technique a little, if i where to have a welder with a little more voltage adjustment rather than just A-E, but i did go back over some of the nasty ones to make them look better
When you turn the welder up and it does the under cut you might be going to slow. On my welder at work I run 21v and 400 wire on stuff that thick but I like to run hot cause that's what I'm comfortable welding at.
6 years of welding experience ( stick and mig) and getting a degree in welding. It all just takes time to get use to. Doesn't matter if the weld looks bad just as long as it penetrates.
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Great job by the way looks good
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Liking it. Looks good. Making quick progress. Just a little side note. A steering stabilizer is just a band aid and is not needed in a properly operating steering setup. Also, your coils are out of wack because your caster is too far forward. Shorten the upper arms a little or lengthen the lowers. This will actually most likely fix your current steering setup hitting the steering stabilizer mount. Look forward to seeing the end results.

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Originally Posted by Jordan1996 ZJ
Well my plan is radius arms in the front and long arm 4-link in the rear. Adjustable forged flex joints on each arm. I ordered FOURTY FOUR FEET of 2" 1/4 wall DOM tubing it cost about 450 bucks but i really only needed 22' but i figured i could use it for a bumper or something. not on a budget as you can probly tell, the only reason i didnt buy a kit was because i thought this would be cooler.

Im also putting in frame stiffeners in between the control arm mounts
Radius arms are no where a 3 link. 3 link is superior in every way. If your having problems welding I wouldn't be building suspension parts.......
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Originally Posted by Jordan1996 ZJ
heres some of what i got done today, look at that pretty weld
Pretty weld? Lol
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
Pretty weld? Lol
Ok so its not the prettiest weld in the world. But it is prettier then almost all his other ones, at least the left half. He's getting better with practice. He can be proud of that. Dont tear the guy down though man. Be helpful and encouraging. You are not contributing to the site by making fun.
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Originally Posted by Lead Foot

Ok so its not the prettiest weld in the world. But it is prettier then almost all his other ones, at least the left half. He's getting better with practice. He can be proud of that. Dont tear the guy down though man. Be helpful and encouraging. You are not contributing to the site by making fun.
Im not making fun. Im a machinist and certified welder. I make all my own parts, but I didn't learn on a project like this. I learned with pieces out of the scrap bin, now my welds are smoother that a robot weld. Seeing welds like that on suspension pieces makes me feel at ease.....how bout you? Just saying learning by doing is great, on some things.
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Just noticed your from mi... I grew up there in zeeland. What shop are you at?
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Originally Posted by Trev1006
Im not making fun. Im a machinist and certified welder. I make all my own parts, but I didn't learn on a project like this. I learned with pieces out of the scrap bin, now my welds are smoother that a robot weld. Seeing welds like that on suspension pieces makes me feel at ease.....how bout you? Just saying learning by doing is great, on some things.
Too bad you aren't certified in grammar.... Yes, I agree that this shouldn't be a first project and the welder should have been set up better.

It actually looks like the control arm brackets were welded upside down while still on the rig? The OP should have tacked them then removed them and welded on a bench where he might be more comfortable.

See that is being helpful and suggesting a way for the OP to improve his skills. Making a 2 word sarcastic comment and then just snickering about it IS NOT HELPFUL, but discouraging. Since you are OBVIOUSLY an expert, offer up some helpful tips; what can he do to weld better in the future? Is there anything he can do to fix the current welds so that you feel they are more safe?
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Originally Posted by Lead Foot

Too bad you aren't certified in grammar.... Yes, I agree that this shouldn't be a first project and the welder should have been set up better.

It actually looks like the control arm brackets were welded upside down while still on the rig? The OP should have tacked them then removed them and welded on a bench where he might be more comfortable.

See that is being helpful and suggesting a way for the OP to improve his skills. Making a 2 word sarcastic comment and then just snickering about it IS NOT HELPFUL, but discouraging. Since you are OBVIOUSLY an expert, offer up some helpful tips; what can he do to weld better in the future? Is there anything he can do to fix the current welds so that you feel they are more safe?
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This is a wonderful project and the progress is quite quick. Keep up the good work. I used to weld roll cages. When you work with that material and that welder it is probably better to do everything you can on the bench turn up the heat and speed up your pattern. If it looks like a row of dimes laying on top of each other you getting a good weld and it looks to boot. Practice your patterns on scrap. IMHO. However other than that you are doing an amazing job so far and are far more ballsy than I was at your age and my dad taught me everything I know and he did nothing but weld for forty years. Bravo Zulu

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Originally Posted by Barrelmaker
Just noticed your from mi... I grew up there in zeeland. What shop are you at?
i work at transfer tool products, but you might be more familiar with our competitors like transmatic, metaflow, or drawform.


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