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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AlchemyXJ
Ok so just to put your guys minds to rest. Its a 300 watt inverter. I have the link for the exact inverter i used on my build thread https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/my...-build-100478/
The inverter actually comes with a much smaller switch than the one that i put on. And since i increased the distance on the switch and outlets i used a substantially thicker wire to avoid voltage drop.

The thing to remember is that the car is only putting out 12 volts dc out of the cigarette lighter its the capacitors and resistors in the inverter that are bringing it up to 110 volts ac. So you can get away with almost any switch because its cutting the power in not power out.

Also as an added safety the unit has a built in fuse incase it gets to much power to it.

I'm probably going to be putting in a larger inverter for the back of the car if i don't end up doing a sound system but we'll see. I'll keep you posted.
wut? you have to input the same wattage to the inverter regardless of the voltage, only difference is that the 12VDC requires more amperage to get to the same wattage as 120VAC, 10x more. Plus the internal losses in the amp. If you are running a constant 300W from that thing at any point, you are drawing a constant load of over 25A on the 12VDC side. The fuse is not going to keep the switch from melting either, theres no relation there. The switch in the inverter I can promise is either (1) wired to a relay, or (2) rated for well over the amp draw (likely 150% but IDK). You can take the advice or leave it, but if your switch has a meltdown you will know why

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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper

wut? you have to input the same wattage to the inverter regardless of the voltage, only difference is that the 12VDC requires more amperage to get to the same wattage as 120VAC, 10x more. Plus the internal losses in the amp. If you are running a constant 300W from that thing at any point, you are drawing a constant load of over 30A on the 12VDC side. The fuse is not going to keep the switch from melting either, theres no relation there. The switch in the inverter I can promise is either (1) wired to a relay, or (2) rated for well over the amp draw (likely 150% but IDK). You can take the advice or leave it, but if your switch has a meltdown you will know why
Exactly true!
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mendax13
How Much do you think it would cost to Herculine/Rhino line an entire 4dr XJ? im seriously considering coating my entire jeep in liner inside and out so the little bastards up the street cant key my car and not to mention tough on the trail. just wondering if anyone could give me an estimate?
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/fi...utside-100169/
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
wut? you have to input the same wattage to the inverter regardless of the voltage, only difference is that the 12VDC requires more amperage to get to the same wattage as 120VAC, 10x more. Plus the internal losses in the amp. If you are running a constant 300W from that thing at any point, you are drawing a constant load of over 25A on the 12VDC side. The fuse is not going to keep the switch from melting either, theres no relation there. The switch in the inverter I can promise is either (1) wired to a relay, or (2) rated for well over the amp draw (likely 150% but IDK). You can take the advice or leave it, but if your switch has a meltdown you will know why
I have no idea what belkin has done to accommodate the power that goes through the switch all i can tell you is the switch that i have put on it is much larger than the one that was on there and that i have been using this set up for over 2 years now and its not given me any issues or melted down or got hot or anything. They know what they are doing all i did was extend some wires and made it pretty.
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by somethingclever
YA Buddy ... CB in the dash. It's out of the way and looks good.(to me at least) What do u guys think thumbs-up or what. Didn't take to long eather bout an 1hr.
i like the cb idea
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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I like other up in the console
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AlchemyXJ
I have no idea what belkin has done to accommodate the power that goes through the switch all i can tell you is the switch that i have put on it is much larger than the one that was on there and that i have been using this set up for over 2 years now and its not given me any issues or melted down or got hot or anything. They know what they are doing all i did was extend some wires and made it pretty.
wait, so you used the wires that were originally wired into their switch? thats a big difference and should definitely be clear in the writeup
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MudMann94

i like the cb idea
Thanks I liked the over head style also but this was a lot more easy to do and no cord hanging down to hit you in the face
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by somethingclever

Thanks I liked the over head style also but this was a lot more easy to do and no cord hanging down to hit you in the face
Haha ya but you could hang a semi style airhorn cable next to it :-)
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper

wait, so you used the wires that were originally wired into their switch? thats a big difference and should definitely be clear in the writeup
Yes sorry I'll clarify. All i did was extend the leads that were on the outlet and the pre existing switch to make it mount in clean rather than having the unit sitting on the floor. Belkin did all the hard work. Sorry if that was confusing.
Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick761

Haha ya but you could hang a semi style airhorn cable next to it :-)
I'm going for the t handle with the button for the train horn
Old Aug 24, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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i home brewed a Maltese cross to cover the nodes on a cage i'm building for a buddy.

oh and added a tire mount to the rear cage section i'm building.
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
In no particular order.


Flat Fenders




That's enough I guess.
What did you use to make the fenders?
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Those look like bushwackers... flat syle
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 98 brutus
Those look like bushwackers... flat syle
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