beastly

 

so I'm trying to come to a decision.

to either pick up waggy 44 for the front with chromolys and beef ujoints with a 5 lug conversion. and toss some alloys in the 8.8. with possibly a c clip eliminator. and run 37-38"s


or

swap in a 5 lug ford 9/hp 44

the 9 would HAVE to have a high pinion carrier and I would convert it to disc brakes , so a good bit of money there. and I would do the same to the ford 44 as the waggy 44.

again with 37-38" tires.

 

The 44/9 is costly especially with a hi-9 third member but i think they would be stouter in the long run.

 

Or you could really beef it up and get a d60 front and a 14bolt rear w/ a shave kit! I like to over build things because i enjoy puttin the hammer down. But thats just me.

To respond to what your asking, i would go with the 44/9 combo. I think you would be happer in the long run.

 

Personally, I would recommend a D60 front, and 14bff/sterling rear. beefy from the start and could easily handle 38-40's. (I see a lot of friends jumping to D60's after having to fix there D44's with 38-40's)

Or

Do the waggy D44 and keep the rear, I don't know that the F9" is worth swapping out the 8.8 you already have... both would be 31 spline yes? so you would gain a pinion support bearing and .2" of ring gear? I would rather do D44 front with Alloy's F+R. half the work and super cheap.

I guess I just see it as it is a lot of work. So pick them so you only do it once, which is why I say D60. The D44 will eventually be the limiting factor. After the cost of the axles the swap will relatively cost the same. I have the waggy(and love it), no issues for me at all on 35's and stock shafts locked in the rocks. But I want 37-38's, and now find myself wishing I did a D60 for peace of mind. however If I am not breaking them now with alloys they should be fine(for me) with 37-38's... not trying to clog your thread just my thoughts

either way good luck and excited to watch

 

you bastards and you 60/14b's, lol.

because of the street time this thing sees id rather stick with the 3/4 ton stuff. that and id like to be under 5k/lbs loaded with gear and me

but if I end up breaking too much, I would consider something larger.

I do think they 9/44 combo can be built a little more stout, but the only downside would be the extra cost of building the 9 the way I want and redoing all the 4 link mounts and truss. that and the added downtime.


I guess it's really all going to depend on if I can get my hands on the 44/9 combo we have in the shop. (customer still undecided) and finding another hp44 with welded wedges is pretty tough around here.

 

This i dident know.After reading that and the fact that you wana stick with the 3/4 ton stuff, i would just say get a 44 front and either beef up your 8.8 or go with a waggy 44. And then if...... i mean when you start breaking shafts, then upgrade to a 60/14bt.

All kidding aside, you may be fine with a 44/44 or a 44/9 setup. It all depends on your wheeling. Plus i know that where we wheel in ocala is pretty slick most of the time so your tires dont get bound up too much.

 

Well the 9" does have bigger tubes and not c-clip, but not a big deal if its trussed.

I would leave the 8.8 over a waggy rear since its already there. Pretty equal once built. but would only do a waggy front if you keep the 8.8 lol. so many options! the 44/9" will work great if your looking for full width (unless they are an EB set (almost stock width?) )

 

I'm an 8.8 fan the front 30 is weak, I would do 44/8.8 the waggy 44 rear is weaker than the 8.8 so take that off the table, c-clip elem and shafts you'll be set, no problems at all, then have the shafts set to 6 lug too, you would be all good man

 

it would be the 8.8 in the back with the waggy front. i wouldnt take out my 8.8 just to throw in a 44.


im trying to get it reliable enough to go wheel in Tennessee or alabama
the 9" is only a hair larger in the tubes than the 8.8, and my 8.8 is already trussed.

i considered the c-clip eliminator anyways just for the slight added width to match the front.


the 44/9 combo in the shop is full width.
the 44 was never on the table for the rear.

i would more than likely just convert the 44 to the CJ 5 lug pattern .



i think im leaning more and more to the waggy frontend, just for the fact that i could toss it in pretty quick and much less expensive than the hp44/9

 

If your not worried about width that's what I would do

 

I think you are going to have a fine jeep sir ha ha

 

went for a drive

 

If you dont mind me asking.. What did you use to make the adjustable ends on your CA's? Might have missed it in your build, if i did my bad lol.

 

on the front? i just built them fixed to a certain length, i didnt want to put any money into them as i knew i would be going 3 link eventually

and the back is tube inserts with heims.