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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff
well first things first. The plan is to go as fast as possible on the 4.0L. once that is pushed to its limits, then I will find a motor swap, but given the main objective of this jeep is to go straight, Im not going to be looking at motors without enough pistons, or imported for that matter

I have been considering making a turboed 4 banger cherokee, that could scream through the twisties, so maybe srt4 jeep is on down the road, but I think that could be cooler in a slammed wrangler, either a TJ, or an old army ******
Both I mentioned are inline sixes.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
Both I mentioned are inline sixes.
Fully aware of that, I added imported, and also, still not enough pistons. If Im going to do a swap then its got to be worth it, and another straight six isnt gonna cut it.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff
Fully aware of that, I added imported, and also, still not enough pistons. If Im going to do a swap then its got to be worth it, and another straight six isnt gonna cut it.
LSX ftw
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
Both I mentioned are inline sixes.
The Supra 2JZ would be a fairly direct swap since the AW4 is a similar transmission as the Supra R-154 uses. Unfortunately both of those motors are $$$ & are Japanese engines. The SRT-4 is at least still Mopar, easy to source & much more affordable.

Let's put it this way, you can make more HP & torque than a jeep can ever need or use with that little turbo 4, keep weight down & not run your wallet dry in the process. The A853/420a motors, they aren't going to be a high maintenance high revving torque-less Honda motor.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by -ND4SPD-

The Supra 2JZ would be a fairly direct swap since the AW4 is a similar transmission as the Supra R-154 uses. Unfortunately both of those motors are $$$ & are Japanese engines. The SRT-4 is at least still Mopar, easy to source & much more affordable.

Let's put it this way, you can make more HP & torque than a jeep can ever need or use with that little turbo 4, keep weight down & not run your wallet dry in the process. The A853/420a motors, they aren't going to be a high maintenance high revving torque-less Honda motor.
You won't make more torque/hp than MY jeep will ever need. IF I would ever consider a 4 banger it would have to be one that could rev to 9000+ but that is not the case with this build. Like I said IF I need a motor swap it will have to be one with more pistons.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff
You won't make more torque/hp than MY jeep will ever need. IF I would ever consider a 4 banger it would have to be one that could rev to 9000+ but that is not the case with this build. Like I said IF I need a motor swap it will have to be one with more pistons.
It's your jeep & your money so do what makes you happy. I was just pointing out one of the various choices that would actually be fairly easy & budget friendly.

FYI- 700-800 HP 9 & 10 second street driven SRT-4's are everywhere. If you're looking to go faster than that or need 1000hp bragging rights then I'd go with a 2JZ or you're choice of forcefed small block chevy V8.

I just know that SRT-4 & Jeep owners have 1 thing in common. Doing everything on the cheap. It doesn't take a bazillion hp or a V8 to go fast. You don't need RWD or to gut your car to be competitive racing. Here's a good example.



FYI- plenty of people rev these out to 8 or 9 grand (with just upgraded valve springs). I was merely pointing out that the 2.4 has a fat powerband that makes lots of down low torque (like 35oo rpms) unlike many other 4 cylinder platforms that are often peaky & make all their power above 6000rpm.

Here's some more 2.4L fun for ya.


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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Thanks, but I know all I need to about the srts, and like I said, would be a sweet build for a slammed carving wrangler, but not the direction that is needed for this build. It's all about those big bragging rights you're talking about.
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by -ND4SPD-

It's your jeep & your money so do what makes you happy. I was just pointing out one of the various choices that would actually be fairly easy & budget friendly.

FYI- 700-800 HP 9 & 10 second street driven SRT-4's are everywhere. If you're looking to go faster than that or need 1000hp bragging rights then I'd go with a 2JZ or you're choice of forcefed small block chevy V8.

I just know that SRT-4 & Jeep owners have 1 thing in common. Doing everything on the cheap. It doesn't take a bazillion hp or a V8 to go fast. You don't need RWD or to gut your car to be competitive racing. Here's a good example.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJCB-yIQNUQ

FYI- plenty of people rev these out to 8 or 9 grand (with just upgraded valve springs). I was merely pointing out that the 2.4 has a fat powerband that makes lots of down low torque (like 35oo rpms) unlike many other 4 cylinder platforms that are often peaky & make all their power above 6000rpm.

Here's some more 2.4L fun for ya.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X32pAnUNAXM

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78InPT4iqlw
The law of inertia kinda disproves your theory. Take two cars, same weight, same power, one fwd, one rwd, guess who wins?
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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So uhhh do you mind sharing with us the brand/model of those headlights?
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jakbob
The law of inertia kinda disproves your theory. Take two cars, same weight, same power, one fwd, one rwd, guess who wins?
I just said you don't need it to go fast. If given the choice I'd choice I'd choose AWD then RWD & yes... FWD last. Can't argue with science
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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So uhhh do you mind sharing with us the brand/model of those headlights?
Someone posted about them in the headlight upgrades thread. I'd find a link but the app on my phone sucks
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
Someone posted about them in the headlight upgrades thread. I'd find a link but the app on my phone sucks
Fine, you win, they are spec-d lights
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineerjeff
Fine, you win, they are spec-d lights
No offense but if you try that hard to be unique (the non highway service ag tires in your other thread too), just build your own custom ****. Trying to keep your aftermarket parts "secret" limits others' builds, and quite frankly makes you look like a douche.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
Someone posted about them in the headlight upgrades thread. I'd find a link but the app on my phone sucks
I don't even like them, I was just trying to get him to tell me what they were.
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfajita
No offense but if you try that hard to be unique (the non highway service ag tires in your other thread too), just build your own custom ****. Trying to keep your aftermarket parts "secret" limits others' builds, and quite frankly makes you look like a douche.
to be fair, I won last time, because no one ever did find out what those are, just some that looked similar. and hey, maybe I dont like every single jeep to look like mine, and maybe I dont like endorsing products for free.
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