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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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With all this snow and staying inside I started doing some more research.
My front doesn't compress nearly as fast as the rear and I feel like it's to tall for the 35's.

So I've decided to remove my current 3" coils (230lb/in) and go back to OEM coils (147lb/in) going to use my old spring 1.75" spacer with longer bumpstops.

Should net me 1.5" lower than I am now which I think will balance my COG better.
The lower coil spring rate I think is to low for a stable offroad XJ but since I run Ford Radius Arms upfront I think their stiffness will make it well balanced.

Also, doing this because I don't have much down travel outback like I used too.
Lowering it an 1.5" will leave the pack with less of an arch at ride height giving me a little more droop.

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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
With all this snow and staying inside I started doing some more research.
My front doesn't compress nearly as fast as the rear and I feel like it's to tall for the 35's.

So I've decided to remove my current 3" coils (230lb/in) and go back to OEM coils (147lb/in) going to use my old spring 1.75" spacer with longer bumpstops.

Should net me 1.5" lower than I am now which I think will balance my COG better.
The lower coil spring rate I think is to low for a stable offroad XJ but since I run Ford Radius Arms upfront I think their stiffness will make it well balanced.

Also, doing this because I don't have much down travel outback like I used too.
Lowering it an 1.5" will leave the pack with less of an arch at ride height giving me a little more droop.
Pondering making a similar, yet different, change myself. The 3.5" lift coil springs that I put in are very stiff. I'm thinking about using the 3" coil spacers with the OEM coils for a softer ride. Not sure if I want to go ahead with that or not though... that's quite a bit of spacer.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 08:16 AM
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Pondering making a similar, yet different, change myself. The 3.5" lift coil springs that I put in are very stiff. I'm thinking about using the 3" coil spacers with the OEM coils for a softer ride. Not sure if I want to go ahead with that or not though... that's quite a bit of spacer.
Yes, I would think of that as a little to much spacer.
Consider, OEM ZJ V8 Coils (1" Lift) w/ 2" Spacer?
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
Yes, I would think of that as a little to much spacer.
Consider, OEM ZJ V8 Coils (1" Lift) w/ 2" Spacer?
Will now... thanks!
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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
Well I put the final touches on WJ:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/du...rawler-220728/

After talking with some friends that run ford radius arms I decided against wristing the arms. Working on designing a copy of a cage style.
Why don't you just make plates off the factory cage part to run a 3 link? my buddy cut his down completely and just welded plate to it for a link tab. I can get pictures and post them its hard to really explain lol
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Why don't you just make plates off the factory cage part to run a 3 link? my buddy cut his down completely and just welded plate to it for a link tab. I can get pictures and post them its hard to really explain lol
Thought about it but didn't see any examples so wasn't sure if it would work.

Does he have 3 frame side mounting points? Or did he do something more like a IRO "3-link"
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 04:07 PM
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Well let the fun begin:

I'm packing the Jeep up tonight for a 700 mile round road trip down to Gulches and back for the weekend.

When I get back all the material I ordered should be in to begin fabricating a new set of Radius Arms.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
Well let the fun begin:

I'm packing the Jeep up tonight for a 700 mile round road trip down to Gulches and back for the weekend.

When I get back all the material I ordered should be in to begin fabricating a new set of Radius Arms.
Looking forward to updates. Jeep looks so BA
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023
Thought about it but didn't see any examples so wasn't sure if it would work.

Does he have 3 frame side mounting points? Or did he do something more like a IRO "3-link"
Ok I finally got the pictures from him so you can see how he did it. it is a true 3 link not a radius setup like iro or rough country. I know the whole cast welding thing scares some people but we have beat on his rig hard and no cracks or anything and it works great
















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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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Sweet work Rock-N-Roll!
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ORFcrawler
Ok I finally got the pictures from him so you can see how he did it. it is a true 3 link not a radius setup like iro or rough country. I know the whole cast welding thing scares some people but we have beat on his rig hard and no cracks or anything and it works great
I've seen this done before. What's the upper link separation on the axle and frame sides? Is he running poly or rubber c-bushings?
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ORFcrawler
Ok I finally got the pictures from him so you can see how he did it. it is a true 3 link not a radius setup like iro or rough country. I know the whole cast welding thing scares some people but we have beat on his rig hard and no cracks or anything and it works great

That's some sweet work, I've got no issues with welding cast. Holds fine when done right. I saved all the pics, thanks!
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Desertfox1023

That's some sweet work, I've got no issues with welding cast. Holds fine when done right. I saved all the pics, thanks!
No problem man I figured it's worth a share if you wanted to give it a try!
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 01:32 PM
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