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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by XxXJ99xX

Sorry to hear about the starter. Hopefully you got the starter in and everything is running smoothly again?
Still been dealing with the starter bs. The new one that looked like it was correct and had the bracket wasn't correct. It's getting returned asap.

Gunna have to take the rock auto starter and use it. Have to remove the rear bracket from the old starter and modify it to work with the new one (weld some extra tabs of metal to it to catch the bolts). Unfortunately, I think that I left the old starter in the back seat of my dad's car which is currently 3 hours away at work with him.... Lol.


Been hard to get motivated when it's been 20° or colder the last few days. The rain, sleet, and snow we had a couple days ago didn't help either. So between that and trying to fix the brakes on Thor, diesel XJ hasn't gotten any love yet. She'll be running soon though.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bpas328xi
Still been dealing with the starter bs. The new one that looked like it was correct and had the bracket wasn't correct. It's getting returned asap.

Gunna have to take the rock auto starter and use it. Have to remove the rear bracket from the old starter and modify it to work with the new one (weld some extra tabs of metal to it to catch the bolts). Unfortunately, I think that I left the old starter in the back seat of my dad's car which is currently 3 hours away at work with him.... Lol.

Been hard to get motivated when it's been 20° or colder the last few days. The rain, sleet, and snow we had a couple days ago didn't help either. So between that and trying to fix the brakes on Thor, diesel XJ hasn't gotten any love yet. She'll be running soon though.
That sucks to hear about all of the trouble you're having with your starter. Are they just different starters for different applications? Worst come to worst you could always just bump start it if you ever really needed to.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by XxXJ99xX

That sucks to hear about all of the trouble you're having with your starter. Are they just different starters for different applications? Worst come to worst you could always just bump start it if you ever really needed to.
I honestly don't know lol. And bump starting a 30 year old diesel? Forget that. I'd rather modify the new starter to fit lol
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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I honestly don't know lol. And bump starting a 30 year old diesel? Forget that. I'd rather modify the new starter to fit lol
Hey as long as the clutch is good it'll be fine. Lol I can understand the wait though, the weather on the east coast sucks. I haven't done anything because of it either.
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Old Jan 11, 2015 | 01:47 PM
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Hey as long as the clutch is good it'll be fine. Lol I can understand the wait though, the weather on the east coast sucks. I haven't done anything because of it either.
I'm just not a fan because the AX-5 trans and the d35 rear aren't the strongest things in the world.

Injection pump is still out, so I might as well put the effort in to make the starter work because it'll be 100x harder with the IP in lol
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bpas328xi
I'm just not a fan because the AX-5 trans and the d35 rear aren't the strongest things in the world.

Injection pump is still out, so I might as well put the effort in to make the starter work because it'll be 100x harder with the IP in lol
I don't think either of those should be a problem for bump starting. If it had a BA10 that's when I'd be concerned. Sounds like an AX-15 and 8.25 would be a good upgrade for the future. Yeah if that's the case you might as well while it's out if that's the case Lol either way it's nice to see this things still in progress and that you can still get parts for them.
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 06:03 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by XxXJ99xX

I don't think either of those should be a problem for bump starting. If it had a BA10 that's when I'd be concerned. Sounds like an AX-15 and 8.25 would be a good upgrade for the future. Yeah if that's the case you might as well while it's out if that's the case Lol either way it's nice to see this things still in progress and that you can still get parts for them.
Yeah. Idk how easy to swap those in would be... But it doesn't need them considering that it's only on stock size tires now lol. For what it is, the d35 and ax5 should be more than fine. There isn't any rear end noise and the trans shifts buttery smooth.

Depending on weather, I might try and get it back together and running by the end of the weekend. We'll see lol.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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Welp... Tried buying the correct replacement starter. Didn't work. Resorted to making the new starter work by swapping some parts with the old starter. Swapped the front nose piece, the actuator arm, and the ?copper? solenoid cylinder from the old starter onto the new motor and solenoid. Pretty much just adult Lego's haha.

Now all I have to do is throw it in the Jeep tomorrow and hit up my diesel mechanic friend to put the pump back in and help me get it running.

Enjoy the obnoxious amount of pictures of two starters. Lol.
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Old Jan 15, 2015 | 11:44 PM
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This is just awesome i just read 24 pages and im stuck on the fact that i want one. even with all the hassles and issues with parts. the fact its a diesel stock is awesome. i would love to really see this thing roll some coal though. how much torque you think that thing produces?
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by browning4x4
This is just awesome i just read 24 pages and im stuck on the fact that i want one. even with all the hassles and issues with parts. the fact its a diesel stock is awesome. i would love to really see this thing roll some coal though. how much torque you think that thing produces?
It rolls a little coal when you fire it up because of the cold start fuel enrichment lol.

And I believe they're rated at 85hp and 131ft-lbs. Extremely anemic by my standards since my other Jeep, a.k.a Thor, (project: keepin it clean) is pushing 400ft-lbs... Lol. Definitely won't be towing anything with the diesel, that's for sure.

But the 35mpg is hard to argue with. It's nice being able to get 1000 miles to a tank of fuel (32 gallon tank).

Can't wait to get it running again. Running out of things to rebuild/replace. Suspension is all brand new, tires are brand new, new brakes, injection pump is rebuilt, starter is brand new/rebuilt, injectors were checked and good enough. I guess the next project to tackle on it is to get the A/C working and convert the windows to power and finish putting on the 2nd gen power mirrors. And fix that darn floppy steering wheel tilt mechanism lol
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 03:22 PM
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It would appear that this thing uses 4.0 I6 engine mounts. Not 2.5 I4 ones. Go figure. Guess I'm making a trip to Quadratec tomorrow to exchange them. Lol.

Good news is that the starter is in and I put new glow plugs in too.
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Old Jan 25, 2015 | 11:31 PM
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New motor mounts appear correct. Just been too cold/snowy to make any progress and put them in. Supposed to be getting hit by snowmageddon over the next few days..... If it holds out long enough, I might be able to get this thing running. We'll see. Almost wish I had parked it in the garage... Hindsight is 20/20 lol
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Old Jan 30, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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I MADE PROGRESS!!!! Just got the motor mount in. Diesel mechanic friend is coming over tomorrow.

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