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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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So trying to get out my lane the other day (solid ice) lost traction in the rear. I then put it in four wheel drive and steered towards the right side of the road where there is a very clean spot. Both right tires not touching ice and only front left and rear left would spin. Backed up the read and put my left tires in a good traction spot and only my right would spin. Is the only solution I have to buy a locker so I don't have this problem?
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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to be honest for ice, I'd install a locker up front and a limited slip in the rear.. By far the best set up for ice IMO. I'm from Minnesota... Trust me
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 12:33 PM
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Try to apply the brake while on the gas.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 01:06 PM
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that will happen in any open differential, non traction controlled rig.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998blackXJ
to be honest for ice, I'd install a locker up front and a limited slip in the rear.. By far the best set up for ice IMO. I'm from Minnesota... Trust me
Where at in Minnesota?
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Where at in Minnesota?
southern end
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by firehawk618
that will happen in any open differential, non traction controlled rig.
^^^^^Couldn't be said better.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Are you driving it like you are on ice, or pretending it's like dry pavement? If the tires are spinning madly out of control you're doing it wrong.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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Sometimes its unavoidable (off camber and hill-start situations).

For me, I usually try to brake while accelerating (newer vehicles incorporate this in their traction control systems to compensate for open diffs)

Get a locker up front and you will be unstoppable, and a LSD in the rear if you really want zero drama.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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i live in maine. get an extra set of steel rims from a junk yard and put a set of studded tires on them for the winter. a bit loud. but, work real good on ice.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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No torque to an axle and traction becomes a moot point.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Good tires for the conditions help, but putting an LSD in the rear of my Jeep was the best thing I've ever done for winter driving. That said, driving on ice does demand patience. Light application of the handbrake can sometimes help too.
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Old Dec 25, 2014 | 10:00 PM
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Thanks for the help I wasn't even thinking about a lsd. PA roads I drive aren't always the nicest just trying to figure a way to make my 2000 drivable out my lane. Happened trying to go to camp to.
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Originally Posted by cjfrigo
So trying to get out my lane the other day (solid ice) lost traction in the rear. I then put it in four wheel drive and steered towards the right side of the road where there is a very clean spot. Both right tires not touching ice and only front left and rear left would spin. Backed up the read and put my left tires in a good traction spot and only my right would spin. Is the only solution I have to buy a locker so I don't have this problem?
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Some form of a traction enhanced diff (locker or LSD) in the rear would solve the problem. A "lunchbox" locker in the rear would be the easiest traction enhanced diff to install. They take a couple of hours, no special tools and no ring/pinion set-up.
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Originally Posted by djb383
Some form of a traction enhanced diff (locker or LSD) in the rear would solve the problem. A "lunchbox" locker in the rear would be the easiest traction enhanced diff to install. They take a couple of hours, no special tools and no ring/pinion set-up.
this.
it's a lot safer having the traction in the rear when on ice in 4wd.
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