worse mpg after upgrades
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From: Toronto
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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hey all,
2000 xj sport 149,000mi; no lift, stock rim size - bought in june. been getting about 10mpg since then so I changed out o2 sensors, spark plugs, 4-hole fuel injector upgrade, cleaned out throttle body -- runs great but i'm averaging 8mpg now, what gives?
I flashed the pcm after the upgrades and read it takes 50~ cycles for the computer to adjust to your driving patterns. It's been about a month since I did all the upgrades and I've been driving fairly regular. Is there anything else I should check to fix this?
2000 xj sport 149,000mi; no lift, stock rim size - bought in june. been getting about 10mpg since then so I changed out o2 sensors, spark plugs, 4-hole fuel injector upgrade, cleaned out throttle body -- runs great but i'm averaging 8mpg now, what gives?
I flashed the pcm after the upgrades and read it takes 50~ cycles for the computer to adjust to your driving patterns. It's been about a month since I did all the upgrades and I've been driving fairly regular. Is there anything else I should check to fix this?
What kind of fuel injectors? If you just got junk yard ones they're probably full of rust and crud and need to be sent out to be professionally cleaned.
What kind of O2 sensors? Jeeps are kind of picky, and prefer the original NTK sensors.
What kind of spark plugs? This one probably won't make as big of a difference, but the regular Champion copper plugs or some fancy gizmo 3-4 prong platinum plugs?
What kind of O2 sensors? Jeeps are kind of picky, and prefer the original NTK sensors.
What kind of spark plugs? This one probably won't make as big of a difference, but the regular Champion copper plugs or some fancy gizmo 3-4 prong platinum plugs?
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You need to get an OBD2 scanner so that you can see what your fuel trims are doing. They can be had on amazon for about $20 these days (search BAFX OBD2 Scanner).
It does not take 50 cycles for your fuel trims to adjust. It takes about 30-seconds to 5 minutes. If it is getting 8mpg it is probably not running great. It is probably running very rich, or 1 or more cylinders are not igniting.
Is the check engine light on?
It does not take 50 cycles for your fuel trims to adjust. It takes about 30-seconds to 5 minutes. If it is getting 8mpg it is probably not running great. It is probably running very rich, or 1 or more cylinders are not igniting.
Is the check engine light on?
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Year: 2000
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What kind of fuel injectors? If you just got junk yard ones they're probably full of rust and crud and need to be sent out to be professionally cleaned.
What kind of O2 sensors? Jeeps are kind of picky, and prefer the original NTK sensors.
What kind of spark plugs? This one probably won't make as big of a difference, but the regular Champion copper plugs or some fancy gizmo 3-4 prong platinum plugs?
What kind of O2 sensors? Jeeps are kind of picky, and prefer the original NTK sensors.
What kind of spark plugs? This one probably won't make as big of a difference, but the regular Champion copper plugs or some fancy gizmo 3-4 prong platinum plugs?
You need to get an OBD2 scanner so that you can see what your fuel trims are doing. They can be had on amazon for about $20 these days (search BAFX OBD2 Scanner).
It does not take 50 cycles for your fuel trims to adjust. It takes about 30-seconds to 5 minutes. If it is getting 8mpg it is probably not running great. It is probably running very rich, or 1 or more cylinders are not igniting.
Is the check engine light on?
It does not take 50 cycles for your fuel trims to adjust. It takes about 30-seconds to 5 minutes. If it is getting 8mpg it is probably not running great. It is probably running very rich, or 1 or more cylinders are not igniting.
Is the check engine light on?
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Year: '96
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check pre cat 02 sensors when looking at obdii. it should be oscillating regularly between high and low voltage. do you have an exhaust leak, is your fuel gauge accurate? does your cat look ok? your coolant temp sensor at the thermostat housing may be sending bad information to the computer too, get the obdii and see what the computer is telling you your temps are (normally it will be a different reading than the gauge, between 0-10degrees lower)
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check pre cat 02 sensors when looking at obdii. it should be oscillating regularly between high and low voltage. do you have an exhaust leak, is your fuel gauge accurate? does your cat look ok? your coolant temp sensor at the thermostat housing may be sending bad information to the computer too, get the obdii and see what the computer is telling you your temps are (normally it will be a different reading than the gauge, between 0-10degrees lower)
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I just meant to make sure your fuel gauge is reading properly when you're on empty and calculating your mileage. I'm sure you've done this just throwing it out. should be getting around 19-20 gallons to fill up on empty.
on obdii app you will see a voltage reader for your o2 sensors. I can't imagine new, oem stock ngk sensors are bad though
on obdii app you will see a voltage reader for your o2 sensors. I can't imagine new, oem stock ngk sensors are bad though
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If the O2 sensors are NTK and new and the plugs are straight copper, there's no exhaust leak, etc. I'd most definitely check the coolant temp sensor.
Get the fuel trims, temps and O2 voltage readings and provide all that data. If it isn't obvious to you when you get the data, there are plenty of folks (like Jordan) that are very knowledgeable about what should be reading what under what conditions and can help you decipher it.
Get the fuel trims, temps and O2 voltage readings and provide all that data. If it isn't obvious to you when you get the data, there are plenty of folks (like Jordan) that are very knowledgeable about what should be reading what under what conditions and can help you decipher it.
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