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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Sorry to beat a dead horse guys... You may have seem some of my other threads and I need some input from you experts.

So I am running a 3.5" Super Flex Kit with 32's on stock wheels, and they rub in the front and rear.

They rub the front control arms, so I know I need spacers or wheels with a different offset.

In the rear, the tires sit VERY close to the leaf springs and they also rub on the inner wheel well as well as the outside. So if I use a different offset or spacer, it may fix the rubbing on the inside but not the outside. In fact, it may not even tuck right?

Below is a picture of my Jeep Flexed. What should I do? Change the offset to fix the front, but mess up the rear? I have some Currie Shackles I could add but then I will probably get a driveline vibration. It only has one from 42-46 MPH right now so it isn't a big deal.

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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do some fender cutting and some steering stops will help most of your issue. and then a little more back spacing on the wheels will solve the rest.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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The fenders are cut in the front and the back... So no more room to play there. I don't think steering stops will help as my turning radius is GREATLY reduced right now because of the rubbing.

But won't more offset in the rear casue it NOT to tuck?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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you need A bigger lift for the 32x11.5 tires
and are you sure they are 32" and not 35"
and rimes with 3.75" backspacing
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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You will lose some "stuff" but bump-stop extensions will also solve your rear rubbing issues. From the looks of it you only need about an inch and a half or so...

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mike37
you need A bigger lift for the 32x11.5 tires
and are you sure they are 32" and not 35"
and rimes with 3.75" backspacing
Definetley 32x11.5" MTR's.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro
You will lose some "stuff" but bump-stop extensions will also solve your rear rubbing issues. From the looks of it you only need about an inch and a half or so...

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That's a fair idea... So would adding the Currie Boomerang Shackles solve this instead? I have no SYE or Transfer Case drop kit right now, but the vibration is minimal. Do you think adding the shackles will make the vibration worse?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ocg03
Definetley 32x11.5" MTR's.
they look bigger I have 31x10.5 and they don't look any where near that big
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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The problem is that in the rear you have a tire in there that is wider than what it was designed for. The ony way you can retain your current amount of wheel travel in your rear suspension is to go to a narrower tire. If you space out the rear wheels you will be hitting the lip of the fender. The only way to avoid this is to trim the fender out to match the inner wheel well. If you add the shackles, it will not avoid this as it will still be able to travel up in there eventually. You also have the option of limiting your wheel travel by extending your bump stops down a lot. It can be done cheaply with rectangular tubing and longer bolts. Other than that you will not have any cheap options. As far as the tires rubbing the control arms, this not a big deal. Mine have rubbed for a long time and there are really no adverse effects from this other than a slightly reduced turning radius.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Go to jegs they have some REAL spacers from 1/4 to a full inch. The come pre drilled with every possible lug pattern and just slide over your studs, and are not the kind that bolt onto your studs than have another set of studs pressed into them, so compromising strength is not a concern. Bump stop the back, i'd put the shackles on and try a 1" tc drop and if you get bad vibes remove it and get smaller tires when these wear out.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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32x11:50 tires are just too big for a XJ UNLESS you hack the fenders open.
On the cheap, install the shackles and install 3 to 6 degree shims to your spring pack for the vibes. taller bump stops are a must to controll stuff.

Also the spacers Flying Low mentioned might require longer axle studs so you endup with enough threads for your lug bolts to screw on to safely

Those are great tires you have but to do them right will cost $$$$$$$. Have you changed your gearing to at least 4:11's? Every mod requires other mods and $$$$$$. Good Luck!
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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These are the kind of spacers I'd recommend. Not too expensive and do not serve as the "weak link" in your drive train setup.
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/JEGS-5-Lu...57104/10002/-1
These are the kind I'd stay away from IMHO.
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/JEGS-Five...02569/10002/-1
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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How come you guys are telling him to put in axle shims. If he is not experiencing any driveline vibration now, that very well could make it vibrate. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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My fenders are pretty cut and rolled as you can see in the pictures. I think this is my game plan before wheeling this weekend...

1. Shackles
2. Extended Bump Stops
3. And some spacers for the front with studs pressed throgh
4. Shims

So this way, I eliminate the rubbing in the front with spacers. I eliminate any possible driveline vibration with the shims. I get 1" extra lift in the rear with the shackles. And... the bump stop extension will ensure I do not rub on in the rear.

My Jeep has 3.55's in it and I did not re-gear. It definetley lost some power, but not that bad.

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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don't do the shims with the shackles they are doing the same basic thing. and if you price out wheel spacers it is the same as just getting some new steel wheels. you can get some tubing to extent the rear bump stop. it is not just how far you can tuck a tire the bump stops will save ripping up your tires and sheet metal.
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