What winch
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From: zeeland mi
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
as i see allways everyone starts bashing someone when they ask a question about what one to get or should i buy this well i have a smittybuilt 10000 lb winch yea got it for 400.00 new and the warn 9000 lb was 850.00 barely anything here is made in the usa cause it cost to much to make it here anymore have you taken your made in the usa made winch apart and checked all the parts to see if they say made in the usa trust me i would buy built in the usa if they wernt so dam over priced a winch is a winch they all break if you dont use them properly so why does everyone bash everything if you dont care for smittybuilt cause you have a warn dont say anything just list the pros and cons and " In 2005, Warn opened a sales office in the Netherlands, added a Distribution Center in Clackamas, Oregon, a distribution facility in Gahanna, Ohio and expanded its manufacturing capability by opening a production plant in Saltillo, Mexico. " so warn is not made in the usa eather built in mexico got that right from there site
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From: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 rebuilt w/ bored TB, banks header, upgraded ignition, 3 row rad, high flow h2o pump, 180* t-stat
^ Holy run on sentence...puncuation bro...i could hardly read that
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From: Wherever the AF sends me!!
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Yep... I've heard of it, it covers the whole lifetime... all couple of months maybe a year if you're lucky!!!
JK... Now is it a complete lifetime warranty now, cause I had a friend who had an XRC8, and when he tried to get a warrantied fix, was then told that it was a limited lifetime warranty, and the limited part didn't cover s**t!!! So I would def. look into that before you start beating on it too hard.... Just my $.02...
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From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I used to be a dealer for Ramsey winch back in the early 90's. Don't know what they are like today but, back then, there was Ramsey and Warn and Superwinch. Superwinch was junk. Ramsey and Warn were serious products. I have a 2500 pound capacity Ramsey "WonderWinch" out in the barn - little bitty thing - that will pull 5,000 pounds through a sheave block. Slow...but stout.
Anyway...I'm a believer that when you need the winch, you really do need it. All bickering aside, quality will out.
Anyway...I'm a believer that when you need the winch, you really do need it. All bickering aside, quality will out.
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as i see allways everyone starts bashing someone when they ask a question about what one to get or should i buy this well i have a smittybuilt 10000 lb winch yea got it for 400.00 new and the warn 9000 lb was 850.00 barely anything here is made in the usa cause it cost to much to make it here anymore have you taken your made in the usa made winch apart and checked all the parts to see if they say made in the usa trust me i would buy built in the usa if they wernt so dam over priced a winch is a winch they all break if you dont use them properly so why does everyone bash everything if you dont care for smittybuilt cause you have a warn dont say anything just list the pros and cons and " In 2005, Warn opened a sales office in the Netherlands, added a Distribution Center in Clackamas, Oregon, a distribution facility in Gahanna, Ohio and expanded its manufacturing capability by opening a production plant in Saltillo, Mexico. " so warn is not made in the usa eather built in mexico got that right from there site
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From: Everett, WA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
as i see allways everyone starts bashing someone when they ask a question about what one to get or should i buy this well i have a smittybuilt 10000 lb winch yea got it for 400.00 new and the warn 9000 lb was 850.00 barely anything here is made in the usa cause it cost to much to make it here anymore have you taken your made in the usa made winch apart and checked all the parts to see if they say made in the usa trust me i would buy built in the usa if they wernt so dam over priced a winch is a winch they all break if you dont use them properly so why does everyone bash everything if you dont care for smittybuilt cause you have a warn dont say anything just list the pros and cons and " In 2005, Warn opened a sales office in the Netherlands, added a Distribution Center in Clackamas, Oregon, a distribution facility in Gahanna, Ohio and expanded its manufacturing capability by opening a production plant in Saltillo, Mexico. " so warn is not made in the usa eather built in mexico got that right from there site
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From: Everett, WA
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From: zeeland mi
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
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yes i know i did that on purpose. Just as i thought some one would be the english ****! Yes they are also made in mexico. Just like most of automotive parts they make them for cheap and sell them for top dollar.
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From: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Year: 1998
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Engine: 4.0 rebuilt w/ bored TB, banks header, upgraded ignition, 3 row rad, high flow h2o pump, 180* t-stat
no not the english ****, just is hard to read what the **** your trying to say whenyoursentenceslooklikethis......
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From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
There are a million reasons car parts are made overseas and all of them the result of politicians and government interference in the car business. Not one single company supplying the car industry would operate in China or Mexico if they were not forced to do so. Look at the etched label on the glass in your XJ...it's been made in Mexico forever. Remember this when you step into the voting booth in November. If your parts suck, if you don't have a job, you have a politician...or a lawyer...to thank.
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From: zeeland mi
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
caemi that was my point. mudd asked for an opinion and they started in with its made in china. buy a real winch i have a smittybuilt 10000lb it was what i could affford. i read good reviews from them being tested right along with other brands. as long as i use it the right way im sure it will last my a long time. as far as the diffrence between the 2 i dont know i havent had to use mine yet. so go with what you can afford and think is right for you.
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it seems there would be a compromise here... Buy the most winch for the money... If you are worried about the reliability of it (because it doesnt have the right name tag on it) then invest in a realy good come-a-long and hopefully never have to use it...