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Old 10-01-2009, 08:55 PM
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Question Welding Spiders???

Ok, I hear of people welding up the spider gears in the rear OR in the front with locking hubs.
But what about welding both?
And do you have to use locking hubs in the front when you weld them?

P.S. I know this puts alot of stress on axle shafts and such. Keep in mind it's just a temp untill I can get some D44s...
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i welded my rear and its a DD. i think its fine to weld as long as you weld it right. dont weld the front unless you have locking hubs.
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Thanks.. Im not doubting you but Im curious.. Why not weld the front without hubs?
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Because you will not be able to steer the wheels on asphalt unless moving. When you steer on loose surfaces off road, you will just go straight, well, maybe a little curve to it.
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cause it will be hard to turn and drive on the street. when you turn the tires roll at different speeds. if they are welded they cant turn at different speeds and will bind can cause you to break things. axle shafts, drive shafts, transfer cases, u joint, etc.... they same is true about the rear tires turning at different speeds but not near as bad as the front. and if the front is locked its just harder to drive and control on the roads especially if wet
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LOL I knew that I dont know why it didnt occur to me... Learned that years ago building a go-cart lol. Thanks for the advice guys...
But you say I can weld the rear with no ill effects?
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you tires will probably chirp going around turns and not be able to turn as well
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not meaning to hi jack here but where would you get a set of locking hubs?
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ive seen a conversion kit for locking hubs for a dana 30 but its way costy like over a grande .... better just to step up to a beeffy axle i think saving cash ya know?? unless there is somethings out that i have not seen

anybody know more on locking hubs for dana 30???
besides cost conversion kit!!
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Originally Posted by lil_red_wagon
i welded my rear and its a DD. i think its fine to weld as long as you weld it right. dont weld the front unless you have locking hubs.
hey man how did you go about welding your spiders "right"?
did you happen to take a pic?? just curious or maybe someone has?
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I have an article from a magazine that I get that describes how to do it and has a couple pics.. if you need I can scan and send it to you. It'll be a while though as I'm leaving for Florida in twelve hours lol. But if you still need it when I get back in a couple of weeks I'd be glad to send it to you
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Originally Posted by MaddXJ85
Thanks.. Im not doubting you but Im curious.. Why not weld the front without hubs?
friend had a Toyota forgot to disengage the front locker when he hit the street and sheered the front axle shaft in 2

remember if something doesn't give it will break
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