Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Walking the dog

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-01-2010, 07:42 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
crux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: ABQ
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default Walking the dog

Had some shims installed this evening in attempts at removing driveline vibes, now the Jeep is dog walking down the road. (dog walking = jeep is not driving straight). Does this make sense to anyone? How could I fix this?
Old 11-02-2010, 08:28 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
TheJerm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Flint/Asheville
Posts: 2,501
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

either your rear axle isnt strait or centered, Or your front axle isnt centered. I'm betting your rear axle isnt strait
Old 11-02-2010, 08:53 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
JeepCoMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

you didn't get the shims on the pegs, or the axle on the pegs for the shims. without the peg (I'm betting you don't have pegs contacting the spring perch at all now, much less centered), the axle will never actually be in the proper locatioin...and it can be dangerous.
Old 11-02-2010, 09:46 AM
  #4  
Member
Thread Starter
 
crux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: ABQ
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by JeepCoMJ
you didn't get the shims on the pegs, or the axle on the pegs for the shims. without the peg (I'm betting you don't have pegs contacting the spring perch at all now, much less centered), the axle will never actually be in the proper locatioin...and it can be dangerous.

OK now that makes me a bit nervous especially after driving it into work this morning. Since the shop did the work how do I double check that they did everything correctly? I don't want to endanger my family over poor workmanship. Is there a method of checking for pin insertion depth without taking everything apart? If so how much insertion should there be? If possible I will measure with calipers this evening.
Old 11-02-2010, 09:52 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
JeepCoMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

axle has to come off the springs to find out if the pin is in.
Old 11-02-2010, 09:53 AM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
JeepCoMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

take it back, tell them it's not going down the road straight, and you paid them to do the job correctly...
Old 11-02-2010, 10:00 AM
  #7  
Member
 
NH_Jeep_XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Live Free or Die State
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I think the key words here are "Had some shims installed...."

I am assuming you were provided new centering pins with the Shims ?

Apparently who ever installed your shims didn't use new Centering Pins provided but simply lifted your packs and lowered the springs existing centering pins base onto the shims instead of unbolting the spring packs and reassembling the spring With the new Centering Pin provided with the shim and refastening it all together again.

The spring pack apparently isn't anchored into the axle's spring perch now but instead is resting in the shim and sliding about on the spring perch whenever subjected to torque.

Hence as to why you have FREE 4WD steering now.

Looking from the back You should be able to visually check the alignment of the Shim vs Spring Pack above it as well as that of the the sides Spring Perch.

Also, make sure they retorqued your Axle UBolts while you are down there. Maybe they didn't cinch them down fully as well.

Last edited by NH_Jeep_XJ; 11-02-2010 at 10:08 AM.
Old 11-02-2010, 01:48 PM
  #8  
Member
Thread Starter
 
crux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: ABQ
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by NH_Jeep_XJ
Hence as to why you have FREE 4WD steering now.
Cool, is that considered an additional feature of 4WP service?

I like the statement, just really not happy with the local shops service both technical and customer now corporate CS leaves quite a bit to be desired.
Old 11-02-2010, 11:30 PM
  #9  
CF Veteran
 
JeepCoMJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

yep.


i say do the work yourself. it's the only way to be 100% happy. because even if it's halfassed...at least you know what's been halfassed.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
InitialForce
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
9
07-05-2022 12:17 AM
toasterknight
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
33
05-21-2016 07:03 AM
VA-XJ
Introductions
5
10-08-2015 09:52 AM
Morris4x4Center
Vendor Showcase
0
09-29-2015 12:21 PM
Jbri22
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
11
09-26-2015 04:30 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Walking the dog



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:40 AM.