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Old 06-02-2014, 01:35 PM
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My 2004 4 litre does not have a mechanical fan. It has the standard 2 speed electric fan but no viscous fan.
My question....was this normal in 2004? I have no cooling problems even when towing but just curious b/c my FSM is showing a mechanical fan along with the electric one..
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This is the Cherokee forum.....last year for a Cherokee was 2001. 2004 would be referencing to a Grand Cherokee.....they r different.
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This is the Cherokee forum.....last year for a Cherokee was 2001. 2004 would be referencing to a Grand Cherokee.....they r different.
I know it is the wrong forum ( it is also posted on the GC forum) but since all 4.0s have the same cooling system I was wondering if anyone was getting by without a mechanical fan. I purchased a fan from a pull & pick but am reluctant to put it on if it ain't really needed.
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This one is convoluted ..... Anyone who can sort it out might want to think about heading to DC to help the Feds.
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This one is convoluted ..... Anyone who can sort it out might want to think about heading to DC to help the Feds.
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"reluctant to put it on if it ain't really needed"

Kinda answered your own question. If it ain't broke........................
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"reluctant to put it on if it ain't really needed"

Kinda answered your own question. If it ain't broke........................
I was questioning the reliability of using the electric fan without a mechanical backup. Any stories?
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LOL Off topic indeed but off topic comments run rampant in this Forum. Just trying to fit in...

If I understand correctly, you are driving a 4.0 GC that has a cooling system precisely the same as a 4.0 XJ. (Of course it really isn't precisely the same because you say the GC has a two speed E-fan.) You have no mech fan and no problems including while towing. Question then is why would you even consider adding a mech fan? Masses of XJ owners have spent untold hours and dollars trying to think of ways to eliminate their mechanical fans and you have done it on a vehicle with the (almost) exact same system w/o even adding an E-fan.

No one has invited me to DC so I will leave this to others to sort.
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LOL Off topic indeed but off topic comments run rampant in this Forum. Just trying to fit in...

If I understand correctly, you are driving a 4.0 GC that has a cooling system precisely the same as a 4.0 XJ. (Of course it really isn't precisely the same because you say the GC has a two speed E-fan.) You have no mech fan and no problems including while towing. Question then is why would you even consider adding a mech fan? Masses of XJ owners have spent untold hours and dollars trying to think of ways to eliminate their mechanical fans and you have done it on a vehicle with the (almost) exact same system w/o even adding an E-fan.

No one has invited me to DC so I will leave this to others to sort.
Thanks for your input. Yes I am happy not to have that 5 lb. mass hanging off my water pump. I just wanted some reliability/failure statistics of the factory e-fan. If there are few failure issues with the OEM e-fan them I'm ok with it. Also this might be good testimonial to cherokee owners who may want to eliminate that beastly fan.
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I do know that I have seen write-ups (not sure what forums but probably mod tech - you could Google) involving using two stock E-fans for cooling with some success and I don't recall mention of fan failures as a factor.

I live in A/C country, at least some use 10 months out of the year most years and my A/C never cycles for whatever reason. The E-fan runs every minute the A/C is on plus any end of run cool down and it now has ~8 years on it. A lot of hours.

My experience is of course statistically meaningless but speaking generally, there don't seem to be all that many reports of E-fan failure. All in the FWIW category.
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Fyi, even gc's with a mechanical fan are different from xj's with mechanical fans...
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