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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
I see three distinct problems.

  1. Non-starting problem - might be a CPS going out, as already mentioned.
  2. Jeep won't move when gassed. Probably low trans fluid.
  3. Suspension hits the oil pan????

I don't think that's right! Trans lines or not, I'm pretty sure your control arm should not be hitting your oil pan!
Something is definitely not right if your arms are hitting the oil pan... are the bump stops removed? I have never flexed up to the pan on stock arms or adjustable arms.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FruitSnacks
Which one, the other Jeep one? Or the one that was actual fruit snacks? Lol
That cool fruit snacks one. Where'd ya get it?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

That cool fruit snacks one. Where'd ya get it?
I actually didn't set it at that, i opened the app on my phone one day and it was like that. No idea who changed it to that haha
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FruitSnacks
I actually didn't set it at that, i opened the app on my phone one day and it was like that. No idea who changed it to that haha
You must have a secret admirer!
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by salad

You must have a secret admirer!
Lol well it wasn't my wife..... Hahaha
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
They aren't normal and it's not Jeep's fault.

Funny that I've never heard of this before on the millions of XJs and Mjs that are stock......
Mechanics didn't seem perturbed by the location. And I tried to find the lines in a junkyard and the ones off a donor Jeep were identical. I just couldn't get those ones off.

Can you send me a picture of the stock location?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by salad
Whoever replaced those lines didn't anticipate suspension travel. That is indeed not the stock location.

Your shutdown issues seem typical of overheating or a sensor failure like the CPS (heat related). The PCM has no mechanism to sense low transmission fluid.

For the future, remember that automatic transmissions are hydraulic systems before they are gear boxes. Fluid level and condition is always the first thing to check.
Funny because the last guy who had it was the one who did the lift. Maybe he had this same issue and replaced them well enough to look OEM?

So not only is the transmission having issues but now the car is overheating to the point of turning itself off? I knew the fluid was leaking and was getting low. I was just trying to get the thing home.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
I see three distinct problems.

  1. Non-starting problem - might be a CPS going out, as already mentioned.
  2. Jeep won't move when gassed. Probably low trans fluid.
  3. Suspension hits the oil pan????

I don't think that's right! Trans lines or not, I'm pretty sure your control arm should not be hitting your oil pan!
How hard are CPSs to diagnose/replace? The car started right up for me when I went to check the fluid. It seems that it's shutting off when too hot and when given time to cool down, it starts back up. While running, the temp gauge read around 220-230 and the radiator cap gauge (not that it's completely accurate) read the same. When the car would shut off, the car's temp gauge would immediately peg over to red zone. Problem is, what's causing the overheating this time? I have an entire other thread devoted to diagnosing my overheating issue. Everything in the engine cooling system has been replaced besides the heating side of things (heater core, etc. the heater control valve has been replaced since I broke it while replacing things. =P ).

So what would allow the upper control arm to hit it? It's when the front is articulating opposite the rear and the right front wheel winds up into the wheel well. I didn't do any of the lift on this Jeep so I'm not sure what the P.O. did.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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That seems to agree with what's on mine. Maybe I took a bad picture and it's looking like it's not stock?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:37 PM
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Lines look new too. They're further from the oil pan and lower than any XJ I've seen.

I missed that part about the arm hitting the oil pan. That's definitely bad news. I think your PO there had this problem and replaced the lines at some point. At least they look new in the photos.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 10:04 PM
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I cant see how else the lines would go. I dont have a trans cooler to comment, but The lines are using the factory fasteners so how else could they really go?

Maybe I missed it, but what are your suspension specs? All stock?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by salad

I missed that part about the arm hitting the oil pan.
So did I, but look again- there's a dent in the pan. I think the line routing is OK, the problem is an incorrectly done lift.
That's gonna be almost impossible to diagnose over the internet.
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Radi
So did I, but look again- there's a dent in the pan. I think the line routing is OK, the problem is an incorrectly done lift.
That's gonna be almost impossible to diagnose over the internet.
Sad thing is P.O. was a certified mechanic for Toyota. Doesn't speak well for him.

As far as lift, all I think he did was new coils and shocks on the front and add a leaf on the back.

However a shop said my front axle was off center because the track bar is stock and therefore not suited for the new ride height. That'd probably do it.
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by savagess2546
However a shop said my front axle was off center because the track bar is stock and therefore not suited for the new ride height. That'd probably do it.
That would make sense. Short track bar would pull the front axle towards the driver's side, and the passenger's side arm into the side of the oil pan.
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Radi
That would make sense. Short track bar would pull the front axle towards the driver's side, and the passenger's side arm into the side of the oil pan.
Hmm then I'll just take it easy with it until I can afford the adjustable track bar to solve the issue.

Is anyone opposed to routing the cooler lines in a safer location anyways?
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