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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by xjsnake
shoot me a PM and you can look in the valve cover of my 97.

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Well if you're not gonna invite everyone.....
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Radi
Those people either had a transmission that was already shot and were trying a fluid change to see if it helped (guess it didn't....) or they had someone do a power-flush. Power flushing trans' is bad news. (reverse flush is even worse).
I don't know of anyone with a properly-operating transmission that did damage with a simple fluid replacement, unless they screwed it up or used the wrong fluid. OTOH I DO know people who never change the fluid and pay for that neglect later. It's a good idea to change it periodically. If it needs it, do it.

What you want to do is what Cherokeekid suggested- a gradual fluid exchange.
Open the drain plug, let 'er drain, replace the plug and refill. That'll exchange about 4 quarts, a bit less than half the fluid. Drive it for a while, repeat. Dexron III, not ATF+4.
flushing is bad, however there are machines that do a complete "fluid exchange"...BG makes one (I own it and have been using it without issue for 10 years) Snap-on and Wynnes also make one. The key is fluid exhange, which is done by using the actual transmission fluid pump and not an external pump like some of those "flushing" systems out there.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Willys55
flushing is bad, however there are machines that do a complete "fluid exchange"...BG makes one (I own it and have been using it without issue for 10 years) Snap-on and Wynnes also make one. The key is fluid exhange, which is done by using the actual transmission fluid pump and not an external pump like some of those "flushing" systems out there.
Excellent point. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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yea, sometimes I make since, normally right after a few whiskey sours....LOL
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Willys55
yea, sometimes I make since, normally right after a few whiskey sours....LOL
Since? How many have you had??????????
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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on my third at the moment...................was a long hard day. Spelling and grammer starts to suffer around the 5th and 6th..,,Haha
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Willys55
on my third at the moment...................was a long hard day. Spelling and grammer starts to suffer around the 5th and 6th..,,Haha
I understand completely.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Willys55
right after a few whiskey sours....LOL
See post #16 above.


And it's an excellent point. The naughty machines are the ones that force fluid through the trans, often in reverse flow, knocking crap loose then forcing it into the valvebody and elsewhere.
The fluid exchange using the trans' own pump does not have those issues and works quite well.
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