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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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I couldn't find a 94 FSM, but the 93 FSM says check in neutral, and the 98 says check in park park. Both give the same pre-check instructions as CCKen, but add in cycling through all the gears.

If you want access to a FSM they are available at Morris 4x4 center in an online version for free. I bought a downloadable version from Pacific Coast Manuals. Only problem is you can not copy and paste text to share information from it. You can however print pages from it and have it on hand while working on your Jeep and just throw out the dirty pages when you are done.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:27 AM
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IIRC, it doesn't make any difference with the AW4 trans, but some transmissions only circulate the fluid in neutral, not park. When in doubt (like when working on someone else's car), use neutral. The fluid needs to be both hot and circulating to get an accurate reading in an auto trans. Just don't be a moron and let it roll away.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CCKen
Pic is too blurry to see what you have.

Your '94 dipstick may have "FULL" stamped on it, with a line below the word.

PARK was chosen by Chrysler to make sure the Jeep stayed put while you were working in the engine bay. Neutral or Park will work. Just make sure if you use Neutral to fully set the parking brake and block the wheels.
Can you see the indentation on the dipstick? That is the fluid level. The word full is about 3 or 4" beneath that.
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by WomanNeedsJeepExpertise
Can you see the indentation on the dipstick? That is the fluid level. The word full is about 3 or 4" beneath that.
No I can't see the indentation on the dipstick, the pic is too blurry.

If the word "FULL" is 3 or 4" below the level of the fluid on the dipstick it's overfilled....that is, if you followed the checkng procedures.

As far as cycling through the gears before checking the fluid level goes, driving it 15 miles to heat up the fluid should have cycled the gears don't you think. :-)
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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Hey I was just quoting the FSM
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Originally Posted by WomanNeedsJeepExpertise
Can you see the indentation on the dipstick? That is the fluid level. The word full is about 3 or 4" beneath that.
I blew your picture up to get a better look and it looks like the level is all the way up to the "S" bend in the dipstick. If that's the indentation that you're referring to, then yes, it's way overfilled. The full level is the top of the crosshatched area, the side that says "full."
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobolink
I blew your picture up to get a better look and it looks like the level is all the way up to the "S" bend in the dipstick. If that's the indentation that you're referring to, then yes, it's way overfilled. The full level is the top of the crosshatched area, the side that says "full."
She needs to follow the hot oil check procedures given, then get back.

I hope this doesn't turn into another 500 post thread....

We're already on two pages of posts just to check the bloody ATF level. :-)

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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 08:24 PM
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She needs to follow the hot oil check procedures given, then get back. I hope this doesn't turn into another 500 post thread.... We're already on two pages of posts just to check the bloody ATF level. :-)
Ok, I brought it back to Firestone and they said the level was good but I still think it's over. I have the car heating up, checking again now with the "hot check." I'm sure I did it right the first few times but just to be sure. Report back in a few...

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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Yup definitely overfilled. That tech definitely did not check it like he said. Got have them drain some out. Gosh, I hope they get it right!
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:07 PM
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Just letting the Jeep run will not properly warm up the transmission fluid and cycle it through the transmission, you need to take it out for a 15 minute or so drive then check the fluid level.

This may seem like a demeaning question, but are you just pulling the dip stick and reading it, or are you pulling it out wiping it then sticking it back in to take the reading? I am only asking because the tech said it was good and I want to make sure you are checking properly or if the so called tech is lying.

In my 50 years I have learnt that the only person I can trust to do things right is myself, and even then I manage to screw things up
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SG Mason
Just letting the Jeep run will not properly warm up the transmission fluid and cycle it through the transmission, you need to take it out for a 15 minute or so drive then check the fluid level. This may seem like a demeaning question, but are you just pulling the dip stick and reading it, or are you pulling it out wiping it then sticking it back in to take the reading? I am only asking because the tech said it was good and I want to make sure you are checking properly or if the so called tech is lying. In my 50 years I have learnt that the only person I can trust to do things right is myself, and even then I manage to screw things up
Yeah, I drove it around for a bit too, got it nice and warm. Yes, I am wiping the dip stick. I've checked it more then once, each time it appears to be over. It's frustrating.
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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OK then when you bring it back to Firestone, talk to the manager or owner about your poor service. First they over fill your transmission, then you were lied to when you brought it back. I would be peeved off, heck for all we know they even used the wrong fluid

Do you have an itemized bill that says how much and what transmission fluid they used? According to the 1998 FSM the approximate refill capacity is 8 liters or 16.9 quarts. I searched for the 1994 capacities and couldn't find them quick enough to quote
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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I specifically requested dex/merc tranny fluid, because that is what I used when I did the drain fill the last time. They wanted to use viserene, some universal tranny fluid.

I am peeved because I've been going here for years for oil changes and tires. I definitely will be speaking to the management.
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Back to the normal level, thank God.

Question: it was recommended that I have my transmission, transfer case, resealed, and rear main engine seals replaced. How important is this with very small leaks? I've noticed these for years and don't seem to be losing tranny fluid.

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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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My 1994 XJ service manual sez 8.5 pints for refill. And the book sez it will vary according to what is in the converter etc..

When I did mine, 8 pints ( 4 qts ) over filled it a little bit.
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