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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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In the past 4 weeks I have gone through 2 brand new TPS sensors from Pep Boys. Both were code P0123. They warranteed the first one as defective and now the 2nd one has failed. I have so far added it's own ground to the firewall and am reading 1/4 Ohm at the plug and I'm getting 5v to the sensor. Before I go and replace it again, could it just be that I'm unlucky or could something else be the culprit?

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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 08:36 PM
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Sounds like you have a meter. Have you measured the voltage while moving it through it's range of motion?
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 09:24 PM
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Isn't it supposed to be a 5 volt signal?
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Three wires. 5-volt supply, ground, and the output signal voltage varies based on throttle position.
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 02:31 AM
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Sounds like you have a meter. Have you measured the voltage while moving it through it's range of motion?
This is the only test I haven't done and will do soon!
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 03:48 AM
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Analogue meter would be best, observing the sweep is simply a lot easier that way
Bought a cheap one of eBay ages ago just for this test.
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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So does anyone think that getting 2 defective TPS's in a row is even possible?
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 01:54 PM
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So does anyone think that getting 2 defective TPS's in a row is even possible?
If they're el-cheapo "Made in China",... yes... absolutely possible.

I would definitely check the wiring and do some testing however. There may be something else that can make that code trigger that might be worth looking into.

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I have a Mopar IAC on the way and if I can get Pep Boys to refund the 2nd defective one then I'll order one from Mopar.
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I got pep boys to give me a full refund and am now waiting on a Mopar TPS to get here. I'll take some new readings then and pray!
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So does anyone think that getting 2 defective TPS's in a row is even possible?
That wouldn't be the first time it's happened.
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Question, while I'm waiting for the Mopar TPS I decided to poke around a bit. I have 4.72v coming from the middle pin and 5.17v coming from the outer with just the ignition on. I wasn't able to hook up the leads to do the sweep test but what does this alone tell me?

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Question, while I'm waiting for the Mopar TPS I decided to poke around a bit. I have 4.72v coming from the middle pin and 5.17v coming from the outer with just the ignition on. I wasn't able to hook up the leads to do the sweep test but what does this alone tell me?

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Is this with the sensor plugged in? If it is, and the ground connection is good then the sensor is likely bad.
Pin 1 - Brown/Yellow wire = ground. Should be pretty close to zero. Measuring the harness side while the sensor is disconnected, you should have 0.25 ohms to ground or lower.
Pin 2 - Orange/DarkBlue = Single wire. Should sweep fro low to high as throttle is opened
Pin 3 - Orange = +5-volt power.

If this wasn't with the sensor connected, plug in back in and retest.
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Originally Posted by lawsoncl
Is this with the sensor plugged in? If it is, and the ground connection is good then the sensor is likely bad.
Pin 1 - Brown/Yellow wire = ground. Should be pretty close to zero. Measuring the harness side while the sensor is disconnected, you should have 0.25 ohms to ground or lower.
Pin 2 - Orange/DarkBlue = Single wire. Should sweep fro low to high as throttle is opened
Pin 3 - Orange = +5-volt power.

If this wasn't with the sensor connected, plug in back in and retest.
This was done with the sensor Unplugged!

Pin #2 (middle pin of plug) is showing 4.72v and pin #3 is showing 5.17v with just the ignition turned on.

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Originally Posted by lawsoncl
Is this with the sensor plugged in? If it is, and the ground connection is good then the sensor is likely bad.
Pin 1 - Brown/Yellow wire = ground. Should be pretty close to zero. Measuring the harness side while the sensor is disconnected, you should have 0.25 ohms to ground or lower.
Pin 2 - Orange/DarkBlue = Single wire. Should sweep fro low to high as throttle is opened
Pin 3 - Orange = +5-volt power.

If this wasn't with the sensor connected, plug in back in and retest.
So, as lawsoncl said, repeat with sensor plugged in
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