thinking about 8.8 one qestions?
06-13-2008, 02:39 PM
#2
Do you hear banjos?
I don't think so. That is a pretty tall gear for a stock vehicle, so I don't think there would be any application where that would be the best choice for a stock vehicle from the factory. I definitely don't know everything, so good luck!!
06-13-2008, 03:21 PM
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Nope it didn't, if you want 4.56 gears in a stock axle find a Dana 44 from a Honda Passport or Isuzu Rodio , there about the same width as a Jeep and the think wall axle tubes, cheep and had either 4.30 or 4.56(most comen) Hope this helps...
06-13-2008, 04:31 PM
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No 4.10's(that I know Of I'll look it up) No Aluminum axles, and yes some years were Leaf sprung...
Some info..
Some info..
Finding an Isuzu Rodeo/Amigo or Honda Passport to pull this axle out of is easy. There are probably several rotting in your local junkyard or the parking lot at work (beware of protective owners who yell a lot when you look under their truck). First, make sure you have found a 4x4 with rear disc brakes. The '98-'04 models have an aluminum differential cover and a four-link rear suspension, which might prove to make for an easy way to four-link your YJ or other Jeep.
The older models, like our '96 Honda Passport axle, came with leaf-spring perches and a steel cover bearing the Dana diamond. Look for the orange tag sticking out from underneath one of the rear cover bolts (right). Ours indicates a limited slip differential. The other tag (left) has the gear ratio stamped on it-4.30:1 or 4.56:1 ratios are common. All of these axles have thick ring gears and use numerically low Dana 44 carriers, so keep that in mind if you want to run the original gears and swap in a locker.
The older models, like our '96 Honda Passport axle, came with leaf-spring perches and a steel cover bearing the Dana diamond. Look for the orange tag sticking out from underneath one of the rear cover bolts (right). Ours indicates a limited slip differential. The other tag (left) has the gear ratio stamped on it-4.30:1 or 4.56:1 ratios are common. All of these axles have thick ring gears and use numerically low Dana 44 carriers, so keep that in mind if you want to run the original gears and swap in a locker.
06-13-2008, 04:36 PM
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More info..
'93 to present Isuzu Rodeo Dana 44 lug pattern is 6 on 5 1/2. Centered Differential. Width is 58 inches. Spring under, 39 1/2 inches apart. Perch width is 2 1/2 inches, some have four-link brackets. Common ratio is 4:30. Perfect swap for the XJ except for the 6 lug pattern. Rods are 30 spline, as thick as any D44. You need tubing adaptors to mate standard brake lines to the metric Isuzu axle. And the Perches have to be moved. The carriers come as 'first generation' '93-'97 which have all the standard Dana 44 specs, and 'second generation' '98+, which have gears that seem thicker because they use a crush sleeve (like Corvette gears) instead of shims for pinion reload. Has a removable 3rd member and the axles are not c-clip. Besides having disc brakes,the Isuzu Rodeo 44 has a seperate drum brake for the e-brake. There are different arguments as to whether the second gen. 44 will or will not accept standard open D44 lunchbox lockers.
06-13-2008, 04:44 PM
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I'm reading here and there that there are some floating around with 4.10's in them, so your best bet would be to call your local "Pick And Pulls" and go from there... Hope this all helps..
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06-15-2008, 05:24 PM
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I have looked under a lot of Explorers and have never seen a 4.56 gear. Actually never even seen a 4.10 but everybody claims they exist..
The most common ratio's are 3.55 and 3.73 and it seems like half of those are limited slip.
On the downside, 3.07 was a popular ratio and some were 3.27
Also do not get so wrapped up in having discs, your best bet is to have an extra pair of shafts. Everybody claims that if you have discs and you break an axleshaft that the rotor and caliper will hold the wheel on for you to drive and that is not true, you will not make it far.
Thats my personal experience...
Not a sales pitch but if you live anywhere around Augusta, GA I have a deal going right now on your choice of stock ratio's (exluding the mystical 4.10) on a drum brake 8.8 with an extra pair of shafts for $275. I will weld perches on to your specs or set it up like stock for $75, you have to connect your own e-brake cables and brake line. you also have an option of limited slip on the 3.55 and 3.73 for no cost
The most common ratio's are 3.55 and 3.73 and it seems like half of those are limited slip.
On the downside, 3.07 was a popular ratio and some were 3.27
Also do not get so wrapped up in having discs, your best bet is to have an extra pair of shafts. Everybody claims that if you have discs and you break an axleshaft that the rotor and caliper will hold the wheel on for you to drive and that is not true, you will not make it far.
Thats my personal experience...
Not a sales pitch but if you live anywhere around Augusta, GA I have a deal going right now on your choice of stock ratio's (exluding the mystical 4.10) on a drum brake 8.8 with an extra pair of shafts for $275. I will weld perches on to your specs or set it up like stock for $75, you have to connect your own e-brake cables and brake line. you also have an option of limited slip on the 3.55 and 3.73 for no cost
06-15-2008, 05:33 PM
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If your not finding 4.10's and your finding 8.8's with drums your dealing with teh older narrower, weaker 8.8. I'd have to look but I have the best choice years wrote down some were, and there most comen with 4.10 gears..
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