still needing help.....
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From: lincoln county,missouri
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Sorry, I didn't mean to bail on you last-night after my entry but I also had a long day, drank too much, then my brain-sensor shut me down. I was NOT referring to the Crankshaft Position Sensor in my reply - it was Camshaft Position Sensor which, as I think about what I said, makes less sense today. I see that you cleared the codes and now you're back to a 12 and 55. The codes will re-load if real. Be patient and do more run-ups for codes. Have you made any other observations at the stalling-point such as stumble-before-stall, just-plain-stops, or funky-scary-oddball sounds? While it seems to quit at 210-212 (by gauge indication) it seems there are other things to consider and your additional observations may bring different conclusions. Keep trying and Good luck.
ok,please help me here....its been a very long day for me..lol...ignition trigger? do you mean crankshaft position sensor? if so i checked it for ohms when the motor died...i got no reading. i have changed the temp sensor,im not saying it isnt a bad one...but i still have my doubts sense it acts exactly the same....it will shut off when it reaches 210-212. i even removed the sensor and cooled it in cool water and it still wouldnt start back up until it sits for awhile. does anyone have the correct ohm readings for the temp sensor on a h.o? all i can find is for renix....the renix is supposed to be at 160 ohms at 195 degrees....at 210 i had 630,so i went and bought a new sensor....let it run...210 degrees it dies....i check the ohms....new sensor says a little over 800?
when it reaches 210-212...im not looking at the gauge,i have a laser thermo. when its getting ready to shut down it starts cutting out.it will stumble for a few minutes then die....thats why i went and bought the fuel pressure tester....thought it was running out of fuel(even though it didnt make sense to run out at exactly 210-212 degrees everytime) the fuel pressure holds at 31 pounds,even after it dies. i even tried dumping fuel down the throttle body and it still acted the same which led me to believe it wasnt fuel related.
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Year: 1992
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Nah, it doesn't sound like a fuel delivery issue, especially since most of your run-ups are at idle speed. Let's keep it simple for-now and iignore all the techno-wonders. This is beginning to sound more like a water issue. From the way you describe it, when the water temperature approaches the boiling point the stumble/stall occurs. I'm thinking that you may have a water-jacket issue (head gasket, head or block cracked). Monitor the tail-pipe water vapor situation (even though it probably doesn't have time to build up exhaust steam due to stalling at the optimum temp). Also, check motor oil for evidence of water invasion and check the cooling system for evidence of oil intro. Sorry we don't live closer - wish I could provide hands-on help. Good Luck!
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UPDATE.... i pulled the cat off and punched it out....put it all back together and no change. so when my buddy finally showed up with the computer we changed it out....so far it is running and not dead yet...it did act funny at first but i think it just reset itself. i will test it out tomorrow a little more...but maybe solved after all...hopefully
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well it seems that replacing the computer did the job....i still want to drive it more just to be totally sure....but it has been doing great.
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Year: 1998
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after reading everyones opinions, and coming to the end i was just about to question about the ecu and what do you kno you already figured it out.. Good job and good to hear shes running good again.
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