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Old 10-04-2013, 10:58 PM
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When i start my cherokee its sputtering really bad and when you rev it in neutral black smoke comes out of the exhaust. what could it be?
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MAP sensor tube
There is a brittle little tube. It comes out of a rubber plug, low on the engine side of the throttle body. It runs back to the firewall, then up to your MAP sensor, behind the valve cover, higher up on the firewall. It has one vacuum line as already mentioned, with a 3-wire plug in the bottom.
CRUCIAL!! The MAP sensor will tell the ECU to dump fuel with little to no vacuum to the MAP. Any crack or blockage and it will be pig-rich. ( black smoke, fouled black plugs, must hold your foot to the floor to keep the engine running). You can pull the line off the MAP sensor and feel for vacuum with your finger. If it runs!
A visual inspection usually reveals any issues with the line from the throttle body to the MAP sensor.

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that line wasnt clogged at all, had nice vacuum to it
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that line wasnt clogged at all, had nice vacuum to it
Unplug the MAP and plug it back in , after inspecting the connector.

Is the plastic clip still intact?
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Unplug the MAP and plug it back in , after inspecting the connector.

Is the plastic clip still intact?

the connector looks fine, clip still intact.
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Black smoke is caused by MAP, CTS, IAT. In that order.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Black smoke is caused by MAP, CTS, IAT. In that order.

Coolant temp sensor can cause black smoke?
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Yes, if it's telling the ECU the engine is real cold when in fat it's not.

Not as bad as a MAP will though.
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Yes, if it's telling the ECU the engine is real cold when in fat it's not.

Not as bad as a MAP will though.
what about the o2 sensor? and it only sputters at start up, after like 5 minutes it evens out and smoke goes away
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what about the o2 sensor? and it only sputters at start up, after like 5 minutes it evens out and smoke goes away
Possibly, but not likely. I would replace it if you've never done it.

Have you ever done the ground refreshing and sensor ground test?
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Possibly, but not likely. I would replace it if you've never done it.

Have you ever done the ground refreshing and sensor ground test?
ok so heres what happen.

this morning i threw on a new o2 sensor. i hoped on the I-17 and headed up north, i was climbing the hill right before crown king exit and white smoke started coming out of the exhaust. what could it be?
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White is usually coolant.
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White is usually coolant.
meaning what? keep in mind i did seafoam about a week ago
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meaning what? keep in mind i did seafoam about a week ago
Sure it doesn't have a blue tint to it?
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Sure it doesn't have a blue tint to it?

not a 100 percent sure,because i was driving when the smoke started coming out and all i saw was white

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