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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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[QUOTE=briankk;2874802]I used to think this too, 'till I started talking to some Oz offroaders.
Clue: Why do you suppose they put split rims on Humvees?

Anyway, I know of a place that will custom build them, well out of my price range, just wondered if there was anything known to bolt on...[/
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The humvee tires I've seen have a hard rubber/plastic type piece inside the tire (hard to explain I've never torn it out to see exactly what it is). But its so you can keep going if your tire is punctured.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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If you're wanting to be able to change a tire on the trail its actually easier to change a regular tire and wheel also safer.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by briankk
Split rims are like any other bit of specialized gear, you have to learn how to use 'em, and you have to have the tools. The horror stories are usually about BoBo the tire guy down on the corner frying to figure 'em out, or rims bigger than 16", 'specially the big truck stuff with the multi-part beadlocks.

I think a lot of the horror stories are circulated by tire shops, 'cause if you have and know how to use split rims, you don't need the tire shops anymore. The whole point of 'em is that you can be out in the wilderness, get a stick through a sidewall, remove the injured wheel, break it down then and there, and mount a new tire and tube, bolt it up and go.

There's not a lot of places in the US that are extreme enough to require that capability, but IMHO, it's just another tool. Choose to use it or not...
I agree you DA MAN please post name and city, I'll check the newspaper death notices daily.

BTY Buddy that was a friend of mine who was killed and a custom engine builder. Wipe the snot from your nose and come back in 30 years and then tell me what you know for sure! Its very oblivious you have no real experience.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred/N0AZZ
I agree you DA MAN please post name and city, I'll check the newspaper death notices daily.

BTY Buddy that was a friend of mine who was killed and a custom engine builder. Wipe the snot from your nose and come back in 30 years and then tell me what you know for sure! Its very oblivious you have no real experience.
I have to agree with you. That guy is completely clueless. All of that crap he wrote was probably something he read or heard from someone trying to sale him some split rims. I did see a guy get decapitated while changing out one of those crappy rims. And it was in a truck repair shop that has done thousands of those rims.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Split rims are called "widowmakers" for a reason.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by briankk

I used to think this too, 'till I started talking to some Oz offroaders.
Clue: Why do you suppose they put split rims on Humvees?

Anyway, I know of a place that will custom build them, well out of my price range, just wondered if there was anything known to bolt on...
The humvee wheels I'm assuming you are talking about are The double beadlocks where the two pieces bolt together with a rubber seal between them. Split rims have a ring on the outside lip that can blow off if you aren't ridiculously careful. The humvee wheels aren't what I would consider split rims and I'd run those if you are wanting to be able to patch a tire on the trail from the inside without carrying a spare. Although patching a tire on the trail by removing the rim,undoing the 8 or more bolts depending on which hummer wheel you buy and then patching and putting it all back together will take 10x longer than just putting a spare on there.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mr white
The humvee wheels I'm assuming you are talking about are The double beadlocks where the two pieces bolt together with a rubber seal between them. Split rims have a ring on the outside lip that can blow off if you aren't ridiculously careful. The humvee wheels aren't what I would consider split rims and I'd run those if you are wanting to be able to patch a tire on the trail from the inside without carrying a spare. Although patching a tire on the trail by removing the rim,undoing the 8 or more bolts depending on which hummer wheel you buy and then patching and putting it all back together will take 10x longer than just putting a spare on there.
That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Jeez, drink less coffee or something guys.. I asked a simple question. I'm not going to come to your place and force you to use split rims at gunpoint..

The last two IH pickups I had were both fitted from the factory with 'em, never killed me or any of the guys down at the local tire store, I thought I'd enquire if such were available for Jeeps.

Y'all are terrified of split rims, it's OK by me, don't use 'em.

Let's talk about something we can all agree on, like oil, for instance...

Sheech..
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 11:42 PM
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Everyone that replied was concerned needlessly of your safety no need to be a douche.
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by briankk
The whole point of 'em is that you can be out in the wilderness, get a stick through a sidewall, remove the injured wheel, break it down then and there, and mount a new tire and tube, bolt it up and go.
Yup. I had 'em on an early 70's Ford pickup. Even back then standard practice was to put them in a cage, air them down, swap the rubber, put them back in the cage and air them back up. It's really a lot easier to carry a mounted spare.
No difference in space and a few extra pounds in weight. The No Decapitation part is just a nice little extra.

The Military designs aren't like the old-fashioned snap-fit split rims, they are two-piece designs that bolt together. Bolted designs are perfectly safe. And perhaps that's the disconnect here, we might not be talking about the same thing.
Here's what the killers look like (left), Vs. the Military style bolt- together rims on the right:
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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Yeah, We were mostly comparing apples to oranges!
The ring type and the bolt together type.
The bolt togethers are safe as far as I know.
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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Money wise, i think you would be better off getting some beadlocks instead of the split rims. If you are going to use them on the road at all, they can and do cause issues.

The whole reason the military and commercial truck shops won't use them anymore is the safety thing.

The choice is definitely yours brother, good luck with whatever you decide to use.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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repaired a lot of split rims years ago and never had an issue. I would put a few pounds of air in the tire and and tap the rings to check seat. I had a long hose that had a valve stem lock and a home made cage. Hose had a pressure control valve that I could set desired pressure. I would leave the tire out in the cage to air up. I wouldn't own one.
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