Rusty radiator, pictures. Which radiator flush do you use?
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From: Seal Beach, CA
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
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I meant in relation to the cooling system. Did you pop off the water pump to see what condition the impeller was in? I just have a feeling you'll be seeing some problems with that cooling system in the near future. Flushing only helps so much. I would have replaced every piece of it if it were me
I'll drive it on highway for 30 min and that is it, if everything is OK.
I used about 1 lb. of bolts to clean coolant bottle. Bottle hose was clogged.
I suspect radiator is partially clogged.
I used about 1 lb. of bolts to clean coolant bottle. Bottle hose was clogged.
I suspect radiator is partially clogged.
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Year: 1996
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I suspect most everything is at least partially clogged. That same corrosion is inside all hoses, radiator, caked on the water pump, everything man. You have the very delicate cylinder head. And if you overheat it, that could be the end of it. So you need to be as careful as you possibly can. If you're going the cheap route, you at the VERY least need to pull every component apart and THOROUGLY clean it. Although I highly suggest replacing it all.
I suspect most everything is at least partially clogged. That same corrosion is inside all hoses, radiator, caked on the water pump, everything man. You have the very delicate cylinder head. And if you overheat it, that could be the end of it. So you need to be as careful as you possibly can. If you're going the cheap route, you at the VERY least need to pull every component apart and THOROUGLY clean it. Although I highly suggest replacing it all.
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Year: 1998
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Just remove the rad, pump, what's left of the stat. Stick a garden hose in the the stat hole in the head and let crud flush out thru the pump hole in the block. Use the garden hose to flush the heater core thru the hoses. Install new parts (rad, stat and pump)and fill with fresh 50/50. Check the color of the coolant in the rad frequently (motor COLD). At the 1st sign of coolant color changing, drain and refill with fresh. The coolant will remain greener/cleaner longer after each refill. To do a drain/refill with fresh coolant takes about 15 mins.
maybe I'll do marine engine acid flushing:
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The reason I'm suggesting disassembling the cooling system, then flushing, is to prevent clumpy crud from being flushed from one place to another. The block/head have the largest coolant passages, therefore the block/head will have the largest clumps of crud. It will be best to flush the big crap into a bucket, not throughout the cooling system. FWIW, the CLR site says "do not use in a radiator".....if it's not recommended in a radiator, it's probably not recommended circulating throughout the motor and heater core either.
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The reason I'm suggesting disassembling the cooling system, then flushing, is to prevent clumpy crud from being flushed from one place to another. The block/head have the largest coolant passages, therefore the block/head will have the largest clumps of crud. It will be best to flush the big crap into a bucket, not throughout the cooling system. FWIW, the CLR site says "do not use in a radiator".....if it's not recommended in a radiator, it's probably not recommended circulating throughout the motor and heater core either.

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I run clr through my coffee maker, dish washer and clothes washer regularly. I also ran it through a car I purchased with an aluminum head no less and had no noticeable Ill effects. The cooling system looked much like yours. I didn't replace a single component. I do not own the car anymore so I can't comment on long term as I only owned it a year.
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Originally Posted by gajeepguy
I also ran it through a car I purchased with an aluminum head no less and had no noticeable Ill effects. The cooling system looked much like yours. I didn't replace a single component. I do not own the car anymore so I can't comment on long term as I only owned it a year.
What he's got the GM cleaner will work fine.
I've used CLR on aluminum, most recently a clogged up Northstar I bought cheap. How do people not notice when the water pump idler self-destructs and they're running in limp? Anyhow, there's an aluminum head AND block there, lol. If you leave CLR in there it's going to come back and bite you. If you flush it all back out, it simply does it's job.
Those coffee pots they do recommend CLR be used in contain aluminum too...the heater coils. Of course coffee pots cost $10, nobody sues over them and they get rinsed out pretty quickly. I'd recommend against use in radiators too were I the manufacturer. Not worth the additional sales, putting up with the clowns who leave it in, rot their system, then call 1-800-rentalawyer.
There's a reason you can't buy really good radiator cleaner anymore. The reason is some folks don't know the difference between a cleaner and an additive, but they do know their lawyer's phone number. Now they sell you $6 lemon juice. Doesn't work but it won't wreck anything either.
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I run clr through my coffee maker, dish washer and clothes washer regularly. I also ran it through a car I purchased with an aluminum head no less and had no noticeable Ill effects. The cooling system looked much like yours. I didn't replace a single component. I do not own the car anymore so I can't comment on long term as I only owned it a year.


