Radiator issue...
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
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From: Central Texas (Round Rock)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Replaced rad cap, and t stat, still over heating.. Lot of grunge build up in the t stat housing, as well as large hose that connects to he housing. When I pulled the housing there was what appeared to be copper looking build up or rust, or whatever on the inside... I'm sure can't be good..
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Replaced rad cap, and t stat, still over heating.. Lot of grunge build up in the t stat housing, as well as large hose that connects to he housing. When I pulled the housing there was what appeared to be copper looking build up or rust, or whatever on the inside... I'm sure can't be good..
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From: Central Texas (Round Rock)
Year: 1999
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I'm a heat real technical here... When I removed the housing that holds the t stat, you could see the coolant in the engine, it looked like rusty stuff, so don't know If it's actually rust..Almost reminds me of a crusty fungus, if there is such a thing.. . Is there a way to clean/ flush all that out? Have no idea what the internals for the rad looks like..
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No, no no, go to a shop and have them use their machine to flush it out. The shops with good machines help a lot....they pump the flush fluid through the entire system then suck it out several times, then they fill it up with nice clean fluid, typically runs about 60-100 bucks. I had mine done for like 65 and it helped a TON! You shoulda seen the crap that came out of mine.
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Originally Posted by Xj88
No, no no, go to a shop and have them use their machine to flush it out. The shops with good machines help a lot....they pump the flush fluid through the entire system then suck it out several times, then they fill it up with nice clean fluid, typically runs about 60-100 bucks. I had mine done for like 65 and it helped a TON! You shoulda seen the crap that came out of mine.
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Well in my opinion I start cheap, go for a flush...that's the firs option, go to a rad shop and have them rod it out...that's a second option, or buy a new rad...3rd and most expensive option.
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Originally Posted by Xj88
Well in my opinion I start cheap, go for a flush...that's the firs option, go to a rad shop and have them rod it out...that's a second option, or buy a new rad...3rd and most expensive option.
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With both the t-stat and water pump removed, u'd be surprised how well a garden hose stuck in the t-stat hole will clean/flush the head/block. Again, coolant doesn't turn rusty over night, years of neglect does. If u replace cooling system components all at once, u only have to drain/refill once. Coolant should be checked on a regular/frequent basis.
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So there's a sizzle sound by the battery? You may have the same problem I had before I replaced my radiator..
The stock radiator has plastic tanks. Over time, the plastic deteriorates and becomes very brittle. Here's a pic of the problem I had with my old Rad.
Here you can see the upper radiator hose fitting crumbled into a zillion pieces.
I'd say your rad is probably shot... So with that in mind, you should replace the Rad, the water pump (because it will start leaking at some point too), the thermostat/housing, ALL hoses (yes even the heater hoses), and also I'd recommend replacing the heater control valve. The heater control valve (depending on the year your XJ is) is either plastic or steel. The steel will rust, and the plastic will crumble/crack.
it's better to just get all the parts installed at once. That way, you dont gotta go through 4 "coolant flushes" a year like I did
The stock radiator has plastic tanks. Over time, the plastic deteriorates and becomes very brittle. Here's a pic of the problem I had with my old Rad.

Here you can see the upper radiator hose fitting crumbled into a zillion pieces.
I'd say your rad is probably shot... So with that in mind, you should replace the Rad, the water pump (because it will start leaking at some point too), the thermostat/housing, ALL hoses (yes even the heater hoses), and also I'd recommend replacing the heater control valve. The heater control valve (depending on the year your XJ is) is either plastic or steel. The steel will rust, and the plastic will crumble/crack.
it's better to just get all the parts installed at once. That way, you dont gotta go through 4 "coolant flushes" a year like I did


