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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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I'm trying to solve the mystery of why my electric fan doesn't turn on in my 1990 Laredo (Renix, closed cooling system). It works great when AC or defrost is turned on, but doesn't turn on at temperature... so I'm running hot. I"m replacing the fan clutch on the main fan since I know that's toasted, but I also want to fix the problem with the electric fan.

From all I can tell, since it's 1) running ok when on AC and 2) the motor and relays seem to be great, that my next place to check is the Radiator Fan Switch. Is this correct? If so, I'm having a HECK of a time finding a part number and the local jeep dealer can't figure out what part it is in their catalog, and the guy at Napa can't find it =\

So two questions:
1. Am I diagnosing this correctly and do I have the right part figured out to replace?
2. Anyone know where to find this part? Is a MOPAR part better in this case than aftermarket? (I guess that made it 3 questions :P )

Thanks much for the help guys.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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i was having problems with mine not coming on all the time as well. Not sure where the temp swith is, or why it isn't working. I ended up just wiring it to come on when the keys turned on. If you decide to go this route then the wire you want to splice into is orange with balck on the bottom of the relay. Some models are gray and black. but again mine was orange
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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the switch is on the thermostat housing on mine i have the very same problem i replaced the switch it still no come no idea why i got a replacement switch on ebay not sure if you have the same set up being a closed system/older jeep
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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the switch is on the thermostat housing on mine i have the very same problem i replaced the switch it still no come no idea why i got a replacement switch on ebay not sure if you have the same set up being a closed system/older jeep
hmm, you replaced the switch and it didn't help? And it's on the thermostat housing? Man, I guess I missed that... unless it's different on mine. I thought the housing was along side the radiator =\

Guess I have more research to do
Thanks for taking the time to reply!
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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it need to hit 215 before it will come on then off around 195
so if you are not getting to 215 your not running hot
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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The elec fan temp sensor is located on the upper right (standing in front of the truck looking at the windshield) of the radiator on a 90. It's a small brass colored unit screwed into the radiator with wires sticking out of it. It's common for it to stop working mine does the same thing. I just put mine on a switch since I wheel mine. It help's ALOT of keep the temp down.

This will solve your prob
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/..._Diagnosis.htm

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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yeah, I'm getting over 215*. It's been running at 220* pretty consistently.
I'm replacing the thermostat and fan clutch on the clutch fan... and I put a new water pump on a few months ago, so that should help with a lot of my coolign issues.

But I wanted to get the fan working correctly too... and I figured the switch would fix that problem at least, if I diagnosed it correctly.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skreed
The elec fan temp sensor is located on the upper right (standing in front of the truck looking at the windshield) of the radiator on a 90. It's a small brass colored unit screwed into the radiator with wires sticking out of it. It's common for it to stop working mine does the same thing. I just put mine on a switch since I wheel mine. It help's ALOT of keep the temp down.
ooh, yes, this is the part I was thinking of! cool, thanks for that.
Where did you get your replacement part? Online? Local store? Is it actually called the electric fan temperature sensor? I thought it was a switch so I'm glad to be told I'm wrong if it helps me replace it
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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I just looked it up...its call cooling fan switch ....you can get it at auto zone or similar parts store.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Skreed
I just looked it up...its call cooling fan switch ....you can get it at auto zone or similar parts store.
Thanks very much Skreed
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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did you replace the thermostat yet
that should be the first thing for any one with overheat problems
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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For RENIX (1987-1990 w/AMC engine,) the thermal fan switch for the electric fan is in the driver's side radiator tank - it's a brass bung with a two-wire lead coming off of it.

It makes sense that the fan would work with aircon selected but won't respond to the TFS - the two circuits are parallel, set up in a "Logical OR" fashion.

I believe the replacement sensor is OEMR only.

However, you can use a later (1991-up) thermostat housing and install an adjustable Chevvy switch in its place - the later housings are tapped with a 3/8" NPT port (standard Chevvy temperature sensor size,) and the adjustable switch should be fairly easy to locate in the aftermarket.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-90
For RENIX (1987-1990 w/AMC engine,) the thermal fan switch for the electric fan is in the driver's side radiator tank - it's a brass bung with a two-wire lead coming off of it.

It makes sense that the fan would work with aircon selected but won't respond to the TFS - the two circuits are parallel, set up in a "Logical OR" fashion.

I believe the replacement sensor is OEMR only.

However, you can use a later (1991-up) thermostat housing and install an adjustable Chevvy switch in its place - the later housings are tapped with a 3/8" NPT port (standard Chevvy temperature sensor size,) and the adjustable switch should be fairly easy to locate in the aftermarket.
OEMR only? (OEMR = OEM, right?)

Hmm, I'll have to check that out. I was looking at this online, thinking it was the right part:
http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=889&PTSet=A
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kidkodiak
OEMR only? (OEMR = OEM, right?)

Hmm, I'll have to check that out. I was looking at this online, thinking it was the right part:
http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductD...pe=889&PTSet=A
OEMR = Original Equipment Manufacturer Replacement. Granted, this does also include Crown and Omix-Ada - they're not terribly common, but they carry a lot of parts that the aftermarket does not.

You can probably try Morris 4x4 Center (www.jeep4x4center.com?) for this thing - I know they carry a lot of Crown and O-A parts, because that's where I usually get them.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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great, thank you again. I'll check them out now
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