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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stev-o
If I have it in drive wen I try to put my 89 in 4wd it clunks like thats not suppose to happen but wen put in nuetral it goes in 4wd fine
Same thing with mine. It goes so much smoother in neutral. Does yours have the D35 in the rear? I must have a trac-loc or whatever cuz mine is definitely a posi. Some people say they aren't posi, and some say they are. All I know is that all 4 of my tires get equal power in part time and I leave nice twin spin marks on gravel roads without even trying to in 2wd.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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I never saw the point of this crap anyways. Obviously Jeep didn't either past 91. The axle internals are turning all the time anyways but the driveshaft is not. On my truck in auto mode, the front shaft spins. All wheel drive blazers from the 70s don't even have hubs and all my 4x4s had the hubs locked at all times cuz I was too lazy to get out and disengage them anyways. I never had any extra wear problems or problems of any type
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by XJdryva
Exactly my point. The left half of your passenger's axle is rotating backwards via the diff and the right half is going froward then when the disco engages, the 2 opposite speeds meet each other with violent force. If you are going 35 when you kick it in, that's a 0 to 70 impact of the disco's coupling. You're brave cruiser
It's what the manual says and it works fine. Never expereinced a hiccup. If it was bad to do, I'm sure Jeep wouldn't have touted it as "shift on the fly" and wouldn't have put the instructions in the owners manual that statted " any legal speed".

But, if you have an axle shift motor/vacuum issue this can change.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
It's what the manual says and it works fine. Never expereinced a hiccup. If it was bad to do, I'm sure Jeep wouldn't have touted it as "shift on the fly" and wouldn't have put the instructions in the owners manual that statted " any legal speed".

But, if you have an axle shift motor/vacuum issue this can change.
I was under the impression that only non disco equipped XJs were "shift on the fly". I'm not sure speed limits were up to 75 when these things came out btw
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by XJdryva
I was under the impression that only non disco equipped XJs were "shift on the fly". I'm not sure speed limits were up to 75 when these things came out btw
Nope. The were shift on the fly always, since 1984 except for one transfer case that wasn't around long. Vacuum actuated like an AMC Eagle.

Speed is not an issue. 55 vs 80.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by XJdryva
I never saw the point of this crap anyways. Obviously Jeep didn't either past 91. The axle internals are turning all the time anyways but the driveshaft is not. On my truck in auto mode, the front shaft spins. All wheel drive blazers from the 70s don't even have hubs and all my 4x4s had the hubs locked at all times cuz I was too lazy to get out and disengage them anyways. I never had any extra wear problems or problems of any type
It was stupid, had no real benefit and cost more money. Not to mention the shift forks that would bend in the CAD, the poorly machined splines that the slider would stick on to and not allow the front axle to engage. And then there's the vacuum harness that got douched with engine oil at every change, swelled all up and didn't seal well. Other than those few minor details, they were *****in'.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Nope. The were shift on the fly always, since 1984 except for one transfer case that wasn't around long. Vacuum actuated like an AMC Eagle.

Speed is not an issue. 55 vs 80.
I have noticed from scrounging around the SY that some of the older v6 equipped XJs had no disco. In fact the only ones I think I've seen are Renix 4.0s with the 231 T case
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by XJdryva
I have noticed from scrounging around the SY that some of the older v6 equipped XJs had no disco. In fact the only ones I think I've seen are Renix 4.0s with the 231 T case
You saw the ones I'm talking about that were full time. Rule of thumb til 91 was full time = no disco, part time =disco.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

You saw the ones I'm talking about that were full time. Rule of thumb til 91 was full time = no disco, part time =disco.
What do u mean by no disco and disco
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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Central axle disconnect.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by XJ.89.Limited
Same thing with mine. It goes so much smoother in neutral. Does yours have the D35 in the rear? I must have a trac-loc or whatever cuz mine is definitely a posi. Some people say they aren't posi, and some say they are. All I know is that all 4 of my tires get equal power in part time and I leave nice twin spin marks on gravel roads without even trying to in 2wd.

Unless you have lockers, all of your wheels wont get equal power. Cross a deep ditch diagonal and you'll see.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by XJ.89.Limited
If you have only 4hi and 4lo, you don't have a selec-trac dude. You have the command-trac.
bam! that answered my question. thanks dude
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by millbro
bam! that answered my question. thanks dude
haha, no prob man. Thats why yours always says part time. You don;t have the full time option. Take a look at the tag on the transfer case. It should say "new process gear" over the top and a "231" on the middle line. Google a picture of an NP231 transfer case tag and get a better reference, then check yours.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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It might also say a different name similar to "new process gear" because after 97 the company changed it's name or got bought out or somethin like that. It should still have the "231" though.
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