Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Oil Leak

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 10:41 AM
  #1  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default Oil Leak

I found oil under my jeep and when I looked there was oil on the bottom of the transmission pan and the front dif. It seems to leak when I park the jeep after driving. I'm thinking rear main seal . . . Anyone have any other thoughts?
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 11:10 AM
  #2  
vindex963's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 36
Likes: 5
From: Payson AZ
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Mine leaks from the oil filter adaptor.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 11:35 AM
  #3  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default

Originally Posted by vindex963
Mine leaks from the oil filter adaptor.
I've heard people say that's a common issue. Now that I look closer, mine is coming from the top of the engine, so it might be the valve cover gasket.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 02:08 PM
  #4  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,579
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

CRUISER'S MOSTLY RENIX TIPS

REAR MAIN SEAL DIAGNOSIS

OCTOBER 31, 2015 SALAD 3 COMMENTS

I’d be looking up ABOVE first, and VERIFYING the source of the oil leak YOURSELF.

Everybody, who doesn’t own or have to pay for or perform your vehicle repairs, loves to poke their noggin UNDER the Jeep and come out bearing the false bad news that your RMS is leaking. Many mechanics, friends, and good old Uncle Bob seem to enjoy telling you it’s the rear main seal. Has a catastrophic ring to it, doesn’t it?

A simple leak at the back of the valve cover or other source could produce the same symptoms. You don’t need to be a mechanic to figure this out. If you have good eyesight and a dim flashlight, you’re good to go on your own. Don’t jump on the RMS/oil pan gasket bandwagon right off the bat.

Almost any oil leak on your 4.0 is gonna drip from the RMS area for two simple reasons:

First off, the engine sits nose-up and any oil will run back to the RMS area.

Secondly, the RMS area is also the lowest point on the engine. Simple physics and the old plumber’s adage apply here: “Crap flows downhill”.

Valve cover gasket, oil pressure sending unit, oil filter adapter seals and distributor gasket, in that order, have to be eliminated as possibilities first. A little tip here. Rather than use a dizzy gasket, use an o ring instead. NAPA #727-2024. Tips 12 and 13 will help you get your distributor back in place correctly.


Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 05:15 PM
  #5  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
CRUISER'S MOSTLY RENIX TIPS

REAR MAIN SEAL DIAGNOSIS

OCTOBER 31, 2015 SALAD 3 COMMENTS

I’d be looking up ABOVE first, and VERIFYING the source of the oil leak YOURSELF.

Everybody, who doesn’t own or have to pay for or perform your vehicle repairs, loves to poke their noggin UNDER the Jeep and come out bearing the false bad news that your RMS is leaking. Many mechanics, friends, and good old Uncle Bob seem to enjoy telling you it’s the rear main seal. Has a catastrophic ring to it, doesn’t it?

A simple leak at the back of the valve cover or other source could produce the same symptoms. You don’t need to be a mechanic to figure this out. If you have good eyesight and a dim flashlight, you’re good to go on your own. Don’t jump on the RMS/oil pan gasket bandwagon right off the bat.

Almost any oil leak on your 4.0 is gonna drip from the RMS area for two simple reasons:

First off, the engine sits nose-up and any oil will run back to the RMS area.

Secondly, the RMS area is also the lowest point on the engine. Simple physics and the old plumber’s adage apply here: “Crap flows downhill”.

Valve cover gasket, oil pressure sending unit, oil filter adapter seals and distributor gasket, in that order, have to be eliminated as possibilities first. A little tip here. Rather than use a dizzy gasket, use an o ring instead. NAPA #727-2024. Tips 12 and 13 will help you get your distributor back in place correctly.
I was gonna change the rms just because it doesn't look that hard, the part is cheap and I don't know how old this one is. After looking it over, it looks like the previous owner might have used rtv instead of a valve cover, and it might be seeping through that. I'll look though the other stuff as well.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 06:16 PM
  #6  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,579
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

It's a pain in the *** to replace the rear main seal compared to a valve cover gasket!! Use Felpro Blue gasket only.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 08:09 PM
  #7  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
It's a pain in the *** to replace the rear main seal compared to a valve cover gasket!! Use Felpro Blue gasket only.
If that's the case I'll probably work on that first. Yeah, definitely getting the felpro gaskets for everything.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2022 | 09:57 PM
  #8  
cruiser54's Avatar
::CF Moderator::
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 43,971
Likes: 1,579
From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

You read my complete post didn't you? #4.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2022 | 05:26 AM
  #9  
awg's Avatar
awg
CF Veteran
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,816
Likes: 725
Year: 96
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by 92SmokyCherokee
If that's the case I'll probably work on that first. Yeah, definitely getting the felpro gaskets for everything.
In my opinion, one should clean the engine very well with degreaser and rags, that way you can see where the oil leak is coming from

I would only change the rear main seal as an absolute last resort, as its a lot of work, can still give issues, and all other oil leaks should be fixed first

the oil filter seals and tappet cover gasket are known leak areas, and are easy to fix. The pan seal and front crank seal can also leak
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2022 | 12:10 PM
  #10  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default

Originally Posted by cruiser54
You read my complete post didn't you? #4.
Yeah, did I miss something?
Originally Posted by awg
In my opinion, one should clean the engine very well with degreaser and rags, that way you can see where the oil leak is coming from

I would only change the rear main seal as an absolute last resort, as its a lot of work, can still give issues, and all other oil leaks should be fixed first

the oil filter seals and tappet cover gasket are known leak areas, and are easy to fix. The pan seal and front crank seal can also leak
I actually did degrease the top of the engine yesterday. I'll need to do the bottom soon. It does appear that I have seepage from the valve cover gasket (is that the same as the tappet cover gasket?)
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2022 | 06:09 PM
  #11  
92SmokyCherokee's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 89
Likes: 22
From: North Carolina
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0l inline 6
Default

Originally Posted by 92SmokyCherokee
Yeah, did I miss something?

I actually did degrease the top of the engine yesterday. I'll need to do the bottom soon. It does appear that I have seepage from the valve cover gasket (is that the same as the tappet cover gasket?)
I replaced the valve cover gasket and despite not having one bolt due to the PO breaking it off in the block, most of my oil leaks are gone. I think its still leaking at the oil filter adapter, but it's certainly better than it was. I used the fel-pro blue rubber gasket because everyone recommended it, and it seems to work well.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2022 | 11:53 AM
  #12  
ZachD's Avatar
Junior Member
Premium Member
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2022
Posts: 33
Likes: 8
From: Alabama
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 2.5 liter 4 cylinder
Default

I wish I would’ve seen this a couple days ago. I got my transmission dropped about to do RMS and oil pan gasket. I’m gonna be pissed if I get it buttoned back up and still leaking.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Keith P
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
4
Sep 11, 2021 08:18 AM
Remus Redbone
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
3
Jul 20, 2017 12:12 PM
cheetos
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
16
Feb 9, 2012 09:43 PM
Camoninja
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
5
Jun 5, 2011 10:55 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 PM.