Oil help needed
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Year: 1996
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Love that comment, even with my Fram "toughguard" on my xj right now. It's raining but I'm bored and I'm gonna try some mobile 1 high mileage (full synthetic) with a wrench off k&n filter. I think im gonna go with 10w-30, then when it gets colder, I usually use 5w-30. I'm thinking of doing a tune up too, I hear the plain old champion coppers work best, how are the champion double platnium? I wish champion made wires and caps too so I could use all champion stuff... I hear Bosch wires and caps are good? How are the duralast wires and caps?
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Love that comment, even with my Fram "toughguard" on my xj right now. It's raining but I'm bored and I'm gonna try some mobile 1 high mileage (full synthetic) with a wrench off k&n filter. I think im gonna go with 10w-30, then when it gets colder, I usually use 5w-30. I'm thinking of doing a tune up too, I hear the plain old champion coppers work best, how are the champion double platnium? I wish champion made wires and caps too so I could use all champion stuff... I hear Bosch wires and caps are good? How are the duralast wires and caps?
The K&N unit is a big rip off. It is a Mobil1 filter with a nut on it. If you want fancy, just get an M1-204 (OE spec) or M1-301 (oversized). You shouldn't be putting filters on any more than hand-tight.
Champion double plats have mixed reception here. Copper for guaranteed performance. Incidentally I have Champion brass cap and rotor on my '99, though I picked up NGK wires. They're numbered!
NGK copper plugs also do very well. Feel free to experiment with double platinums, but copper will always give you guaranteed performance. IMO in a 4.0 you should be checking your plugs more frequently than every 900000000 miles anyway (or whatever the selling point is on the double platinums)
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Love that comment, even with my Fram "toughguard" on my xj right now. It's raining but I'm bored and I'm gonna try some mobile 1 high mileage (full synthetic) with a wrench off k&n filter. I think im gonna go with 10w-30, then when it gets colder, I usually use 5w-30. I'm thinking of doing a tune up too, I hear the plain old champion coppers work best, how are the champion double platnium? I wish champion made wires and caps too so I could use all champion stuff... I hear Bosch wires and caps are good? How are the duralast wires and caps?
I just did a tune-up with an Accel cap and rotor and Bosch copper plugs. I just pulled my NGK V-power copper plugs. They were light tan in color and gapped out at .045 after two-and-a-half years of use with no maintenance. They did well and I was impressed. I'm still using my Napa/Belden 7mm wires, and may go with an MSD coil and wires before too long. I also replaced my O2 sensor two days ago. The Jeep is running its best for as long as I've had it!
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The K&N unit is a big rip off. It is a Mobil1 filter with a nut on it. If you want fancy, just get an M1-204 (OE spec) or M1-301 (oversized). You shouldn't be putting filters on any more than hand-tight.
What do you think of those expensive Bosch filters that they sell at wally world? Are they good for a 10,000 mile interval?
What do you think of those expensive Bosch filters that they sell at wally world? Are they good for a 10,000 mile interval?
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The wal-mart here has all the Frams, some budget Purolators, Bosch extended performance, and a few Mopars. They're carrying so many motor oils now that it's an entire aisle. They've even got some Royal Purple here...
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I got champion copper plus, duralast wireset (model specific, not universal) and a duralast cap (model specific, not universal) how do you thi k she'll do? I just changed my oil and put in pennzoil 10w-30 conventional (yellow bottle, 5qt jug and a 1qt jug) filter is a Fram tg16 (apparently the best Fram filter there is) (which can't be good anyways bc is a Fram...) how do you think I'll do? I think it had 5w30 before so should I expect more ticks and noises at start because of the thicker oil? I was going To get Mobil one high mileage full synthetic 10w30 But AutoZone didn't have it in the 5 quart jug only in the one quart jugs. They had 5qt jugs of it in 5w30 (which I should've used...) how do you think she will be with all of this?
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I have no opinion on the double platinums as I never use them in this motor, but the single-platinums are asking for trouble in a waste spark ignition like the later years with coil rails have.
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Yes Champion/BWD C271 for the brass cap and D228 for the rotor.
What heavier weight oil?
You'll be fine.
The Tough-Gard series of filters looks okay. Still find it hard to trust FRAM after how truly awful their low-end is. Run a WIX or NAPA Gold for dependable quality. (http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/...html#fram-tg8a)
Nah just put a K&N sticker on it.
I got champion copper plus, duralast wireset (model specific, not universal) and a duralast cap (model specific, not universal) how do you thi k she'll do? I just changed my oil and put in pennzoil 10w-30 conventional (yellow bottle, 5qt jug and a 1qt jug) filter is a Fram tg16 (apparently the best Fram filter there is) (which can't be good anyways bc is a Fram...) how do you think I'll do? I think it had 5w30 before so should I expect more ticks and noises at start because of the thicker oil? I was going To get Mobil one high mileage full synthetic 10w30 But AutoZone didn't have it in the 5 quart jug only in the one quart jugs. They had 5qt jugs of it in 5w30 (which I should've used...) how do you think she will be with all of this?
Thanks
Thanks
You'll be fine.The Tough-Gard series of filters looks okay. Still find it hard to trust FRAM after how truly awful their low-end is. Run a WIX or NAPA Gold for dependable quality. (http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/...html#fram-tg8a)
Nah just put a K&N sticker on it.
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I noticed it has a lot more of the usual 4.0 noises now. Most likely because its plain old pennzoil, not the 5w30 t5 rotella that was in it before... I was going to buy mobile 1 high mileage full synthetic, but autozone only had it in 5w30, (which I now know is better for my 4.0) they didn't have it in the 10w30 I was looking for. I'm better educated on oil now...
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I noticed it has a lot more of the usual 4.0 noises now. Most likely because its plain old pennzoil, not the 5w30 t5 rotella that was in it before... I was going to buy mobile 1 high mileage full synthetic, but autozone only had it in 5w30, (which I now know is better for my 4.0) they didn't have it in the 10w30 I was looking for. I'm better educated on oil now...
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