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I use to use fram and my lifters would tick but I didn't think anything about it until someone told me to change filters. I use a mopar filter now and no longer have the tick. I also have run havoline 10w30 and have never had a problem with it. 186k
interesting.. Originally Posted by sgtskid

I use to use fram and my lifters would tick but I didn't think anything about it until someone told me to change filters. I use a mopar filter now and no longer have the tick. I also have run havoline 10w30 and have never had a problem with it. 186k
and havoline is VERY good oil and its cheap!
OP, do you have ericXJ's book?
www.ericXJ.com
thats where I learned about which oil filter to run
its an oversized one
really good book too no XJ guy should be with out.
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Car quest premium always have had good luck with them. They also have a little display comparing them to the other filters out there.
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One of my buddies was just telling me about how Fram sucks... He said NAPA had really good filters.. Hmm..
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I didn't think anybody else knew or remembered that.Originally Posted by trs80
NAPA are Wix filters. Wix makes filters for Nascar, if anyone cares.
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NAPA GOLD filters are made by Wix. And usually cheaper. I usually use those or Bosch filters if I go to vatozone for the oil change special. Others say Mobil 1 and Champion filters are good. I dont know who makes the Mopar ones.Originally Posted by trs80
NAPA are Wix filters. Wix makes filters for Nascar, if anyone cares.
I heard/read that mopar filters are outsourced and could be made by a number of companies. They are just painted different and stamped with the mopar logo.
Next time I do my oil I will swap out for a napa gold
Next time I do my oil I will swap out for a napa gold

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Full of useless knowledge. Only if I could get a job that pays me for it, wait I do. Originally Posted by mike albo
I didn't think anybody else knew or remembered that.
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Originally Posted by trs80
Full of useless knowledge. Only if I could get a job that pays me for it, wait I do. hahah, Useless knowledge is awesome though. It can be useful in Cash Cab!
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Up until a while ago I have always heard great things about fram.
I read a post somewhere on here where people were advising against Fram filters due to poor quality.
I am just curious if this is true or was it something that has been fixed.
If fram is a crappy filter what is a good one to replace it with. I have one on my jeep right now along with an extra amsoil filter that the PO put on there.
For maximum engine life and just an all around great filter is there a different one you suggest? Even one that fits but is not the stock one for the jeep?
the details.
1987 xj
about 156k miles
manual trans
4.0
Hello,Originally Posted by NewXJaddict
Ok I know what one is what it does how to change it and all that stuff.Up until a while ago I have always heard great things about fram.
I read a post somewhere on here where people were advising against Fram filters due to poor quality.
I am just curious if this is true or was it something that has been fixed.
If fram is a crappy filter what is a good one to replace it with. I have one on my jeep right now along with an extra amsoil filter that the PO put on there.
For maximum engine life and just an all around great filter is there a different one you suggest? Even one that fits but is not the stock one for the jeep?
the details.
1987 xj
about 156k miles
manual trans
4.0
I am the Technical Training manager for FRAM, Prestone and Autolite. Please dont believe the "internet tribal knowledge" you may hear about FRAM. I know there are several 10 year old "I cut open some oil filters studies" on the net. There is no filter testing in either one, just the posters opinions. We make five different grades of filters depending on your mileage, change intervals and what kind of oil you use. We stand behind our products 110%. We make OE filters for Honda and Subaru. You should look for a filter that has both good efficie ncy and capacity and use a high qaulity oil. look for filters that are tested to ISO test standards, they superceeded the SAE standards in 2002. For your vehicle, I would recommend the FRAM High mileage filter. It contains a basket inside that has an additve that releases slowly over the life of the oil change. this additve helps maintain the TBN of your oil over the life of the oil change. If you are going to use synthetic oil, I would recommend the FRAM Extended Guard filter. this filter is recommended for up to 10k oil changes when used with quality synthetic oil. It has silicone valves, a two ply synthetic filter media backed by a stainless steel screen and has exceptional dirt holding capacity. If you have any questions about filters, I can answer on this forum or you can email me directly at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com
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I am the Technical Training manager for FRAM, Prestone and Autolite. Please dont believe the "internet tribal knowledge" you may hear about FRAM. I know there are several 10 year old "I cut open some oil filters studies" on the net. There is no filter testing in either one, just the posters opinions. We make five different grades of filters depending on your mileage, change intervals and what kind of oil you use. We stand behind our products 110%. We make OE filters for Honda and Subaru. You should look for a filter that has both good efficie ncy and capacity and use a high qaulity oil. look for filters that are tested to ISO test standards, they superceeded the SAE standards in 2002. For your vehicle, I would recommend the FRAM High mileage filter. It contains a basket inside that has an additve that releases slowly over the life of the oil change. this additve helps maintain the TBN of your oil over the life of the oil change. If you are going to use synthetic oil, I would recommend the FRAM Extended Guard filter. this filter is recommended for up to 10k oil changes when used with quality synthetic oil. It has silicone valves, a two ply synthetic filter media backed by a stainless steel screen and has exceptional dirt holding capacity. If you have any questions about filters, I can answer on this forum or you can email me directly at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com
Thanks for posting this. I've used Fram filters exclusively in my '84 Dodge RamCharger http://www.dodgeramcharger.com/featu...arger-26.shtml since it was new. Never had any problems and it runs fantastic at 250,000+ miles!Originally Posted by motorking
Hello,I am the Technical Training manager for FRAM, Prestone and Autolite. Please dont believe the "internet tribal knowledge" you may hear about FRAM. I know there are several 10 year old "I cut open some oil filters studies" on the net. There is no filter testing in either one, just the posters opinions. We make five different grades of filters depending on your mileage, change intervals and what kind of oil you use. We stand behind our products 110%. We make OE filters for Honda and Subaru. You should look for a filter that has both good efficie ncy and capacity and use a high qaulity oil. look for filters that are tested to ISO test standards, they superceeded the SAE standards in 2002. For your vehicle, I would recommend the FRAM High mileage filter. It contains a basket inside that has an additve that releases slowly over the life of the oil change. this additve helps maintain the TBN of your oil over the life of the oil change. If you are going to use synthetic oil, I would recommend the FRAM Extended Guard filter. this filter is recommended for up to 10k oil changes when used with quality synthetic oil. It has silicone valves, a two ply synthetic filter media backed by a stainless steel screen and has exceptional dirt holding capacity. If you have any questions about filters, I can answer on this forum or you can email me directly at Jay.Buckley@honeywell.com
I've used a variety of filters in my cherokees, including Mopar, Fram, Mobil 1, and STP. Never had problems with any of them.