Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

Not starting

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-06-2015, 07:34 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default Not starting

Hi I have a 98 xj cherokee and Well it blew the asd fuse 2 times then it blew the O2 sensor heater fuse 2 times the second time it wouldn't start again no power to fuel pump, no spark, no gauges work inside. Since then I have changed the ecu, cps, map sensor throttle position sensor, new battery checked all fuses and relays,checked immobiliser. It turns over but that's it it also has new fuel pump, injectors. I think there maybe a short somewhere but not 100% if there is I need a good wireing diagram and I carnt find one anywhere all the help will be apreciated thanks callam
Old 04-06-2015, 07:53 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by callam11
Hi I have a 98 xj cherokee and Well it blew the asd fuse 2 times then it blew the O2 sensor heater fuse 2 times the second time it wouldn't start again no power to fuel pump, no spark, no gauges work inside. Since then I have changed the ecu, cps, map sensor throttle position sensor, new battery checked all fuses and relays,checked immobiliser. It turns over but that's it it also has new fuel pump, injectors. I think there maybe a short somewhere but not 100% if there is I need a good wireing diagram and I carnt find one anywhere all the help will be apreciated thanks callam

That sure is a lot of $ shotgunning parts.


A 1998 Factory Service Manual can be obtained from Pacific Coast Manuals.com for $7.95. It's a pdf download.


Here's some '98 ASD related diagrams:

Name:  img011.jpg
Views: 290
Size:  1.05 MB


Name:  img012.jpg
Views: 190
Size:  1.00 MB


Name:  img013.jpg
Views: 148
Size:  779.9 KB
Old 04-06-2015, 08:17 AM
  #3  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Thanks for that will be a good starting point for me and luckly I know somebody wrecking a xj so I just grabbing parts as I need them haha
Old 04-06-2015, 08:39 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

When you say "immobilizer", is that a factory installed Smart Key Immobilizer System, or some aftermarket install? In '98 Chrysler called a 'Smart Key'. Later it was called a 'Sentry Key'.

Last edited by CCKen; 04-06-2015 at 08:42 AM.
Old 04-06-2015, 08:44 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

If the ECM (PCM) you installed has not been programmed for the immobilizer system, it won't start.
Old 04-06-2015, 08:49 AM
  #6  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by CCKen
When you say "immobilizer", is that a factory installed Smart Key Immobilizer System, or some aftermarket install? In '98 Chrysler called a 'Smart Key'. Later it was called a 'Sentry Key'.
I am pretty sure it's a factory one
Old 04-06-2015, 08:51 AM
  #7  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by CCKen
If the ECM (PCM) you installed has not been programmed for the immobilizer system, it won't start.
Na the ecm didn't make a difference when I put the new one in was the same as before
Old 04-06-2015, 09:05 AM
  #8  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by callam11
I am pretty sure it's a factory one

If you have the factory system, the smart key will look like this:


Name:  2000XJSentryKeyImmobilizerTransponder.jpg
Views: 202
Size:  145.3 KB
Old 04-06-2015, 09:12 AM
  #9  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by CCKen
If you have the factory system, the smart key will look like this:


Yeah that's it
Old 04-06-2015, 09:27 AM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Does the ASD fuse and the Fuel Pump fuse blow simultaneously?


You might try removing the ASD relay and the Fuel Pump relay and see if the fuse(s) blow. If not, reinstall the relays one at a time to see if one, or both, fuses blow.


If the fuse(s) blow with the relays removed, the short(s) are down steam of the relays (see diagram). In this case, the short would be in the PDC or in the harness coming out of the PDC.


Inspect the relay pin cavities in the PDC for corrosion.


Try wiggling the harness coming out of the PDC and see if the fuses blow.


You might have to disassembly the PDC and look at the wiring to the relays and fuses.
Old 04-06-2015, 09:29 AM
  #11  
CF Veteran
 
CCKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canton, MI
Posts: 8,357
Likes: 0
Received 82 Likes on 67 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by callam11
Na the ecm didn't make a difference when I put the new one in was the same as before

Didn't make what difference? Fuses still blow?


Believe me, if the ECU (PCM) is not programmed for SKIS, the engine will not start.


You may have more than one problem on your hands.
Old 04-06-2015, 04:17 PM
  #12  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by CCKen
Does the ASD fuse and the Fuel Pump fuse blow simultaneously?


You might try removing the ASD relay and the Fuel Pump relay and see if the fuse(s) blow. If not, reinstall the relays one at a time to see if one, or both, fuses blow.


If the fuse(s) blow with the relays removed, the short(s) are down steam of the relays (see diagram). In this case, the short would be in the PDC or in the harness coming out of the PDC.


Inspect the relay pin cavities in the PDC for corrosion.


Try wiggling the harness coming out of the PDC and see if the fuses blow.


You might have to disassembly the PDC and look at the wiring to the relays and fuses.
The fuses all blew at different time while driving. Now the last time one blew it wouldn't start back up again so I replaced sensors relays fuses key skimmer and ignition barrel
When this happens I lost all the gauges power to coil, fuel pum ect. So that's why I changed the
Ecu and it didn't make anydifference
Old 04-06-2015, 04:17 PM
  #13  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
callam11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by CCKen
Didn't make what difference? Fuses still blow?


Believe me, if the ECU (PCM) is not programmed for SKIS, the engine will not start.


You may have more than one problem on your hands.
How do you program the ecu then?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
frantic29
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
16
09-26-2015 04:30 PM
Ashs1714
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
8
09-04-2015 10:14 PM
north0house
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
08-31-2015 09:08 PM
03cheroke
Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here!
2
08-27-2015 06:07 AM
Gtrsrlly
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
5
08-25-2015 11:50 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Not starting



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 AM.