non working gauges
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non working gauges
i have a 93 cherokee with a 4.0 went and played in the snow got home parked it and the next day the gauges didnt work. they didnt just ground out or nothing they just quit working i have no oil pressure, alt. gauge , tach speedo the temp gauge moves but its not right. all the rest of the dash lights and and outside lights work fine. so i could use alittle help on this one please
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How do you know they didn't ground out?
There is a connector under the dash, sometimes it get corroded or damaged and gauges stop working.
Someone posted the same thing you posted, and it turned out to be the connections under the dash.
There is a connector under the dash, sometimes it get corroded or damaged and gauges stop working.
Someone posted the same thing you posted, and it turned out to be the connections under the dash.
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i will pull the wires out and take a look at them but i allways thought that if the oil and temp gauge ground out they spike when the key is turned on the only one that moves is the temp and it moves slow. but i will look at the bundle and report tomarrow. thanks for the ideas i hate wire issues
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dont feel bad brother, i have a 1997 and i lost all my gagues after i installed the lift. my gas gauge never worked on a count of the fuel unit being faulty, i guess its a recall but it still runs, but after the lift, i get no gauges no ODOMETER reading, no speedo but the illumination works headlights work all interior light works .... im clueless as weell if anyone can help please give us some advice
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so i replaced the exhaust manifold and they worked for a week and shut down. it sat for 2 weeks i went out started it and banged my knee on the steering colum and thay started workin again. is there any type of ground or something in the steering colum?
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ok so i checked all the plugs, grounds and other wires comming into the jeep and found nothing wrong. i replaced the cluster and the computer and still nothing works. i know its getting power to the cluster cause the turn signals and the high beam ind. and the back light still work. any other thoughts world really help me out i am running a manual temp gauge and using my cell phone for a spedometer. thanks
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fuses, wiring, resistors, i really dont know much about gauges. there are alot of threads on this one, though. so maybe thru that.... ???? i hate electrical gremlins...
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ok and now it gets weirder i was testing gauges and sending units and when i hooked a wire from the positive stud on the back of the alternator to the battery all my gauges worked and have continued working now for a week.
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96 and up use the CCD Bus to carry the the signal from the PCM to the gauge cluster.. Fuel level is a seerate circuit. Typically, poor/dirty electrical contact on the cluster connectors is the cuprit. Pull the cluster and clean the connectors with electrical contacct cleaner, then add some dielectric grease.
Check all of the applicable fuses in the junction box and the PDC.
For the OP:
95 and older do not have the CCD Bus, instead they are individually wired. Obviously there is a common power issue with your rig. I'd suggest removing the wire you added, disconnecting the positice and negative battery cables and do a thorough inspection of the cables from the battery connections to every connection point in the engine compartment.
Bad battery cables and dirty grounds are very common, can cause all sorts of headaches.
Start there and let us know what you find.
Check all of the applicable fuses in the junction box and the PDC.
For the OP:
95 and older do not have the CCD Bus, instead they are individually wired. Obviously there is a common power issue with your rig. I'd suggest removing the wire you added, disconnecting the positice and negative battery cables and do a thorough inspection of the cables from the battery connections to every connection point in the engine compartment.
Bad battery cables and dirty grounds are very common, can cause all sorts of headaches.
Start there and let us know what you find.
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after they started working i did shut it down and unhook the wire and they have been working ever since. i am going to do a little cleaning on the contacts this next weekend . the only other thing i have noticed is now sometimes the tach will start working like 3 seconds after everything else.
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