No power to the wheels, engine is revving fine.
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Two or three quarts stay inevitably in the converter, you can crank the engine (unplug the distributor, so it won't start) without the pan, this will take another 1-1/2 quarts out but to fully drain it the transmission needs to be taken off.
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hmm.. thanks mate!
This is going to be done tomorrow, since it is just not drivable right now! And, how do we check ignition coils? Is there a good way to check them, how do we tell that they are going bad?
This is going to be done tomorrow, since it is just not drivable right now! And, how do we check ignition coils? Is there a good way to check them, how do we tell that they are going bad?
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Oh, would cranking the engine that way, damage the transmission or the torque converter in any way? And I don't need to disconnect the lines which are going into the radiator, right?
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Plug a spark plug in the coil cable, ground it and crank. If u have sparks it's fine.
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No, it would be like turning the converter by hand, obviously don't stick on the starter! The lines should bleed for suction and gravity, u can disconnect the line feeding the heat exchanger and blow air in it to be sure, but anyways a little old oil won't hurt guys, just empty the pan.
How is the condition of your cat?
Same sort of problem occurred on my 93, it turned out to be a chunk of cat material that broke loose and jammed up the exhaust. Causing no power to the wheels what so ever.
Its worth a look while your down there.
P.S. When dropping Tcase pan be careful of the dip stick tube. They tend to not like separating from the pan, might have to come down all together. There is a bolt on the bell housing used to keep it in place.
Same sort of problem occurred on my 93, it turned out to be a chunk of cat material that broke loose and jammed up the exhaust. Causing no power to the wheels what so ever.
Its worth a look while your down there.
P.S. When dropping Tcase pan be careful of the dip stick tube. They tend to not like separating from the pan, might have to come down all together. There is a bolt on the bell housing used to keep it in place.
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How is the condition of your cat?
Same sort of problem occurred on my 93, it turned out to be a chunk of cat material that broke loose and jammed up the exhaust. Causing no power to the wheels what so ever.
Its worth a look while your down there.
P.S. When dropping Tcase pan be careful of the dip stick tube. They tend to not like separating from the pan, might have to come down all together. There is a bolt on the bell housing used to keep it in place.
Same sort of problem occurred on my 93, it turned out to be a chunk of cat material that broke loose and jammed up the exhaust. Causing no power to the wheels what so ever.
Its worth a look while your down there.
P.S. When dropping Tcase pan be careful of the dip stick tube. They tend to not like separating from the pan, might have to come down all together. There is a bolt on the bell housing used to keep it in place.
I'm thinking this could be related to the torque converter. When mine went out in my TJ it would do exactly what you described. In the mornings it would go and then suddenly i lose power to the wheels. I have to play around with it to get it to go again but it always went in 4-low. Upon inspection it was the torque converter that fried...and then later the tranny went.
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I'm thinking this could be related to the torque converter. When mine went out in my TJ it would do exactly what you described. In the mornings it would go and then suddenly i lose power to the wheels. I have to play around with it to get it to go again but it always went in 4-low. Upon inspection it was the torque converter that fried...and then later the tranny went.
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Okay, so today, I did half of the job, removed the tranny filter and flushed as much oil as I could..
So then I went on the hunt to find the filter.. couldn't find any! :@
Most of the people just wash it using petrol and fit it back, so I started cleaning it..
and DAMN! I couldn't even imagine the amount of ****TTT that came out of that little tranny filter.. and the damn thing holds quite an amount of ATF! lol.. so, should I fit it back or what, it looks quite clean though, its still 'sinked' in petrol and having fan out there in the garage.. I tried to find that aspirator thingy but no luck. Pakistan has no such joys I think. Damn. Anyways, back to the point, I've cleaned the tranny filter quite some bit. I just hope that the slipping thing was due to this little filter. Got some new 7 liters of ATF.
Tomorrow I will try and find some good working solenoids and pack up the transmission back and get it working again. Is there a way to check solenoids using an ohmeter? I saw that somewhere on the INTERNETS but cannot find it again...
So then I went on the hunt to find the filter.. couldn't find any! :@
Most of the people just wash it using petrol and fit it back, so I started cleaning it..
and DAMN! I couldn't even imagine the amount of ****TTT that came out of that little tranny filter.. and the damn thing holds quite an amount of ATF! lol.. so, should I fit it back or what, it looks quite clean though, its still 'sinked' in petrol and having fan out there in the garage.. I tried to find that aspirator thingy but no luck. Pakistan has no such joys I think. Damn. Anyways, back to the point, I've cleaned the tranny filter quite some bit. I just hope that the slipping thing was due to this little filter. Got some new 7 liters of ATF.
Tomorrow I will try and find some good working solenoids and pack up the transmission back and get it working again. Is there a way to check solenoids using an ohmeter? I saw that somewhere on the INTERNETS but cannot find it again...



Dealer who flushed it....more than once
...found coal, mud, water, and tadpoles in it.