Is this from your personal experience, or do you have a factual reference?

 

Driving for 10+ years in WI winters on AT tires, then switching one year to MT's were proof enough for me. Sure, like you said, off road wheeling, MTs are the way to go. Not on road, though.

There is no bias on my end, just plain fact that I learned from personal experience. You can look at numbers and stats from whatever tire selling sight you want. Keep in mind they are also selling those tires, and MT's are more expensive. I'm not trying to sell you any tires, I'm not trying to make any money off you. I'm just telling you what I found actually using the tires on road and not what some tire selling internet site tells me.

Personal, first hand experience > words on a computer screen.

 

ATs are better on packed snow, period! Powder, you may get better performance from an MT, but only marginally better. Most snowy driving conditions are on packed roads, so I vote AT.

 

I semi agree with COSXJFAN, as packed snow is hard to dig through regardless.

http://www.rangerovers.net/outfittin...tiretypes.html

The A/t slides all over mud, why would snow be any different? Its not. If mud packs in there so will any other substance that can.

Taken from Four Wheeler Magazine-
"So what's the verdict? Would A/Ts or M/Ts be better for you? Well, you have to answer that question depending on the type of driving you do and what type of performance you wish out of your vehicle, both on- and off-road. We know many experienced 'wheelers who are extremely opinionated on this topic, yet offer completely different views regarding what type and brand of tires work best both on and off the snowy trail. Much of this depends on what the vehicle is, and how it's modified. We've been on winter trail runs where drivers take into consideration the forecast high temperature of the day, the snow consistency and the snow depth before choosing their type of tire for the trail. If someone held a bag of deep-fried pork rinds to our heads and demanded a one-or-the-other decision, our opinion is that based on this test, if we only had enough money for one type of tire on our jack-of-all-trades TJ, we would choose the M/T. We'll tolerate the minimal inconvenience of the M/Ts firmer ride and incrased road noise to benefit from their aggressive off/-highway capabilities."

 

It would be different because snow and mud are two different things. Period.

The OP said he lives in the mountains. He's got 30" tires, and isn't lifted. My guess, and its a pretty good guess, is that he's not gonna be using this Jeep as a trail queen.

Therefore, being he's gonna spend most of his time on road, the ATs will be the best choice.

/end

 

Ok, there, you and him said it. Powder is what youll find in the mountains, drifts and light powder. M/t would be the way to go.

Thank you

 

Now you are just getting your feathers ruffled. No one ever said anything about powder but you. Don't get upset because others disagreed and offered personal experience and fact. And we all know the mountains don't "just get powdery snow." You'll find more than powder in the mountains, buddy.

Also, you still haven't answered the question directed at you by myself and another member, which was "have you ever used both tires in snowy conditions?" Leads me to believe you are just looking at what the internet tells you, not from personal experience.

You can answer now, but it'll just look like you are covering your ****. Sorry man.

On a side note, how does this powder stick to the ATs? If its just powder, it'll just brush right off and not cause clogging issues that you have been speaking of. Kinda contradictory.

 

I dont need to lol, I posted links with surveys and tests both saying M/Ts are better in light and deep snow.

Yes, I have used BFG AT, General AT, Pro Comp AT, BFG MT, Pro comp XT, Simex trekkers, DC Baja Claws, Treadwrights, Mickey thompsons, etc.

The Generals were good in light snow and ice, they have alot of grooving and siping, but they were no where near as good as the simex or BFG M/T's. And I used them both last season, BFG MT and AT, where we started with slush, then 4" snow, and than got hit with 24" of snow. The MT's outperformed in almost every aspect, although I did like the AT's for slush a little better. Im not saying this for my health, I have been around the block, I love A/T tires, they are great. But the fact of the matter is that M/Ts outperform them in snowy conditions. Whereas the A/T's have the upper hand in slush, ice, and dry driving.

 

I guess we'll just have to disagree. I must be able to use the ATs better or something, cuz I never had issues getting stuck or keeping grip. I've used MTs and ATs on and off road. The MUD terrain always did better off road, the ALL terrain seemed better when I wasn't trying to go off the roads.

Heh, here in WI if we get anything less than 24" we're surprised. Usually it seems like we get 24" every week. And I love it!

 

I have Pro-Comp Extreme A/T's on the Truck they were purchased because they have a 40k tread life warranty and Pro-comp was doing a buy 3 get one free. Purchased in May of 2007 and still plenty of tread.

The Jeep has has Goodyear Wrangler MK T/R or something like that with the kevlar sidewalls. Too soon to tell but I love the traction and mud clearing. They also have a good run patch? in the center which improves paved driving. I saw a Goodyear Banner offering a rebate at the top of this thread. I got Discount Tire to match an internet price, they gave me the discount without telling me, and then I took my reciept and mailed it in for an additional rebate. Good Luck.

 

Thats how it is up on our land in montana, but were only there maybe 3 months in the summer and 3 weeks in the winter.

 

Ah, that may explain something. I'm in the worst of it when it gets here. I'm here year round.

 

i got kumho road venture ATs and i LOVE them!!!!! but i wish i could have gotten general grabber atz but they are out of stock EVERYWHERE!! but i could not be more happy with my kumhos!

 

Sorry haha, 3 weeks and a little over 5 ft of snow. Pain in the *** cause we couldnt open the front door until i unhinged it and pulled it in.

 

Bingo.