My experienced friend and I rebuilt my jeeps engine. We ended up using a head off a 97, the original head was a 94 -95. On the back right corner there is some type of sensor that threads into the(94-95) head into where the water goes. Looks like a nut. The 97 head doesn't have it, so before its drilled and tapped can some tell me what it is and what's it for?
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Temp sender for the gauge. Pipe thread. 1/4" IIRC.
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That would be the temperature sensor to drive the gage in the IP - drill & tap 1/8" NPT, in the same location (recommend you centre drill - or at least a good centre punch and pilot hole - before you drill it out for real!)Originally Posted by siglincasey
My experienced friend and I rebuilt my jeeps engine. We ended up using a head off a 97, the original head was a 94 -95. On the back right corner there is some type of sensor that threads into the(94-95) head into where the water goes. Looks like a nut. The 97 head doesn't have it, so before its drilled and tapped can some tell me what it is and what's it for?
Use never-seez on the screw threads, tighten finger tight, then an additional 1/4- to 1/3-turn with a wrench (you should not need more than that.)
The sensor for the ECU is found in the thermostat housing, it generates a signal for the ECU's reference, and for the ECU to energize the fan relay.
This sensor was omitted for OBD-II, and the IP gage is driven by the CAN bus instead (OBD-II data stream) I do not believe the water passage in the head was altered, merely that the boss went unmachined.
EDIT - Cruiser seems to think it's 1/4" NPT, but I'm pretty sure it's 1/8" NPT. To make sure, take the sensor with you when you go to get the drill & tap - stop off in plumbing and thread the sensor into a union of each size. It will only fit one - please confirm once you have done so, for the rest of the class...
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Use never-seez on the screw threads, tighten finger tight, then an additional 1/4- to 1/3-turn with a wrench (you should not need more than that.)
The sensor for the ECU is found in the thermostat housing, it generates a signal for the ECU's reference, and for the ECU to energize the fan relay.
This sensor was omitted for OBD-II, and the IP gage is driven by the CAN bus instead (OBD-II data stream) I do not believe the water passage in the head was altered, merely that the boss went unmachined.
EDIT - Cruiser seems to think it's 1/4" NPT, but I'm pretty sure it's 1/8" NPT. To make sure, take the sensor with you when you go to get the drill & tap - stop off in plumbing and thread the sensor into a union of each size. It will only fit one - please confirm once you have done so, for the rest of the class...
Could be. That's why I typed IIRC!! Hmm. Not so sure now. Isn't the oil sender 1/8" NPT and the temp sender 1/4" NPT? I don't feel like pulling down the ladder to the garage attic and verifying right now. For some reason, my balance might be off this time of night........Originally Posted by 5-90
That would be the temperature sensor to drive the gage in the IP - drill & tap 1/8" NPT, in the same location (recommend you centre drill - or at least a good centre punch and pilot hole - before you drill it out for real!)Use never-seez on the screw threads, tighten finger tight, then an additional 1/4- to 1/3-turn with a wrench (you should not need more than that.)
The sensor for the ECU is found in the thermostat housing, it generates a signal for the ECU's reference, and for the ECU to energize the fan relay.
This sensor was omitted for OBD-II, and the IP gage is driven by the CAN bus instead (OBD-II data stream) I do not believe the water passage in the head was altered, merely that the boss went unmachined.
EDIT - Cruiser seems to think it's 1/4" NPT, but I'm pretty sure it's 1/8" NPT. To make sure, take the sensor with you when you go to get the drill & tap - stop off in plumbing and thread the sensor into a union of each size. It will only fit one - please confirm once you have done so, for the rest of the class...
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I survived the trek up there. 1/8" NPT on oil sender and temp sender. CTS and IAT are 1/4" NPT.Originally Posted by belvedere
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It would be easier just get a new t-stat housing and put it in there since that's where the later models (97-01) have them. You can get a new housing that already has the threaded hole. I know that a few people on here have done this.
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That was done 1991-up.Originally Posted by RTorrez1
It would be easier just get a new t-stat housing and put it in there since that's where the later models (97-01) have them. You can get a new housing that already has the threaded hole. I know that a few people on here have done this.
1987-1990 had three temperature sensor - driver's side of the block (behind the exhaust, for the ECU, M20-1.5 straight thread, I think - a Peugeot or Renault part also fits there with lower operating temperatures,) driver's side radiator tank (thermal fan switch, 3/8" NPT, I think) and driver's side rear of cylinder head (IP gage, 1/8" NPT.)
1991-1995 had two: the driver's side rear of the cylinder head (for the IP gage,) and the other two were combined into a single sensor in the thermostat housing (threaded 3/8" NPT.)
1996-up (OBD-II) rigs have a single sensor - in the thermostat housing.
Therefore, he should already have the later thermostat housing.
Also, the upper rear of the cylinder head is pretty much the hottest part of the cooling jacket - it's a sort of "flow pocket," and has a reduced flow rate for coolant. If you move the sensor to the front of the head (better coolant flow,) you'll wan to keep a better eye on it, since it won't tell you what the "hot-spot" temperature is. I prefer having the sensor at the rear of the head, since that will tell me much sooner if the engine is overheating!
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CTS on the block, for the ECU, is 1/4" NPT. Radiator sensor is metric.
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Ah - thanks for that. Most of the CTS units I've seen (in general) were 3/8" NPT, and I hadn't had an XJ one out yet.Originally Posted by cruiser54
CTS on the block, for the ECU, is 1/4" NPT. Radiator sensor is metric.
Do you happen to know the threading on the RENIX drain plug? I want to put an elbow and a cable-operated valve in there in my refit, I just haven't had one out yet (I already know it's a 5/16" square drive to get the thing out - you can easily make a tool to do the job with a 5/16" or 8m/m cheap-O hex key and a grinder in about five minutes.)
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I believe the block drain plugs are 1/4" NPT but with a 5/16 square drive.
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Yep. That's it.
Remove the remnants and put a 1/8" pipe plug in it's place.
Remove the remnants and put a 1/8" pipe plug in it's place.

