More budget injector upgrade questions
i read through until page 8 and then got so confused i thought id post.
Found these Mustang injectors on Craigslist.
a site says that they run 19#/hr @ 32 PSI, P/N E6TE-A3B
i have a 92 4.0HO, Can i run these?
sorry if this is a repetitive post, i cba to read through 18 pages.
Found these Mustang injectors on Craigslist.
a site says that they run 19#/hr @ 32 PSI, P/N E6TE-A3B
i have a 92 4.0HO, Can i run these?
sorry if this is a repetitive post, i cba to read through 18 pages.
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From: Everett, WA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
All i want is the right injector for some improved MPG
edit: Apparently the neon injector: 0280155703 everyone is talking about is in the 2.4 in the caravans and the 2.0's in the neons.
Last edited by Pistol-McGee; Apr 9, 2010 at 01:50 AM.
well u just gotta make sure its the same connector and id say around the 21's for yours. prob the neons or the fords that end in 715. i have 24lb a hour. there ford racing ones. 75$ from ebay but im a 4.7. since your stock u want a smaller rate and any one with the 4 hole nozzle will help with mpg
Im still confused, Some people say use an adapter for the ford injectors, some say they drop in, some say from the 2.0 neon engine, some say from the 2.4...WTF!
All i want is the right injector for some improved MPG
edit: Apparently the neon injector: 0280155703 everyone is talking about is in the 2.4 in the caravans and the 2.0's in the neons.
All i want is the right injector for some improved MPG
edit: Apparently the neon injector: 0280155703 everyone is talking about is in the 2.4 in the caravans and the 2.0's in the neons.
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/...ad.php?t=92236
I followed that link to check out the injectors- I have a quick question- the guy who wrote the thread has "Ford xr3z-a4b " but the picture of the injector says xr3E-a4b - anyone know which one is the right one? I couldnt find the xr3z- only the xr3e-
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From: Oak Hills
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6 K&N, Flowmaster, accel yellow, 703 injectors, SS fuel lines routed through CAI
There are better alternative for the right injectors, Renix should use the same flow injectors as the HO, the stock injectors for Renix flow 240cc, HO flow 248cc (up to 95) and 234cc (96- up). BUT, the Renix and OBDI flow at 39PSI and the later 4.0L flow at 49.
Injectors flow is always measured at 3 Bar, 43.5PSI. This is a reference point and from this you can calculate the flow to your system working pressure.
So, why not Ford Bosch 0280155710? because of the above, flow about 210cc, and doesn't have a clip nut for holding the injectors leveled.
Why not FMS A302 255cc? too much flow for any stock 4.0L and old design, not as efficient as the newer EV6 Bosch injectors.
The better alternatives are in house injectors, Neon 2.4L 95-96 have 238cc injectors in it, 0280155703, these are EV6 4 holes injectors with clip nut. Better fuel economy, better throttle response, better power.
The disadvantage is that you'll need to take these out of two cars..
Another alternative are the LS1 injectors 0280155890, flow a bit less than the Neon injectors at 3 bar but will do just fine in any 4.0L. Some refers to these as 26.6lb/hr injectors but this is the flow at 4bar, at 39PSI/2.7bar will flow 21lb/hr
So why replacing 248cc/min injectors 238cc/min? the EV6 injectors are capable of better atomization of the fuel hence less fuel is needed each stroke for the right A/F mixture.
If there is a need for more flow one can use the 96-97 Taurus/Sable V6 injectors, 0280155715, these are EV6 without clip nut and flow exactly the same at the FMS A302. Or LS1 0280155931 which flow a bit less but does have clip nut. Both will out perform the older EV1.3 A302 injectors.
Last, don't use lb/hr for rating injectors flow, as it always calculated from cc/min since injectors flow is Always measured using cc measuring tube. Some use 10.5 for calculating lb/hr, some use 10.4 and neither is correct.
Injectors flow is always measured at 3 Bar, 43.5PSI. This is a reference point and from this you can calculate the flow to your system working pressure.
So, why not Ford Bosch 0280155710? because of the above, flow about 210cc, and doesn't have a clip nut for holding the injectors leveled.
Why not FMS A302 255cc? too much flow for any stock 4.0L and old design, not as efficient as the newer EV6 Bosch injectors.
The better alternatives are in house injectors, Neon 2.4L 95-96 have 238cc injectors in it, 0280155703, these are EV6 4 holes injectors with clip nut. Better fuel economy, better throttle response, better power.
The disadvantage is that you'll need to take these out of two cars..
Another alternative are the LS1 injectors 0280155890, flow a bit less than the Neon injectors at 3 bar but will do just fine in any 4.0L. Some refers to these as 26.6lb/hr injectors but this is the flow at 4bar, at 39PSI/2.7bar will flow 21lb/hr
So why replacing 248cc/min injectors 238cc/min? the EV6 injectors are capable of better atomization of the fuel hence less fuel is needed each stroke for the right A/F mixture.
If there is a need for more flow one can use the 96-97 Taurus/Sable V6 injectors, 0280155715, these are EV6 without clip nut and flow exactly the same at the FMS A302. Or LS1 0280155931 which flow a bit less but does have clip nut. Both will out perform the older EV1.3 A302 injectors.
Last, don't use lb/hr for rating injectors flow, as it always calculated from cc/min since injectors flow is Always measured using cc measuring tube. Some use 10.5 for calculating lb/hr, some use 10.4 and neither is correct.
awesome details right there
XR3Z 9F593 A4B
XR3E 9F593 A4B
CROSS REFERENCES
FORD # XR3Z-A4B
MOTORCRAFT #CM-4956
CODE # 211
STANDARD # FJ441
WELLS # M538
http://www.fuelinjector.citymaker.com/Motorcraft.html
Last edited by rainman; Apr 9, 2010 at 06:14 PM.
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From: D.C. & Cape Cod
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
I just got a set of six 280 155 703 for $45 (used, not rebuilt) from phantasticdeals511 on Ebay, FYI. I emailed an inquiry from an auction for a different part number. YMMV.
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From: omaha
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Liter H.O.
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From: wellington
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 v6
hey i guess im not the one confused im looking to upgrade my injectors but idk the difference between renix or HO all i know is that i have 1999 jeep cherokee 4.0 so which ones would be good
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From: michigan
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.slow
Let me get this straight. My 2000, should in theory, take injectors from any 99/00 4 cyl dodge product. correct? After the last 19 pages I just started to get myself all twisted up in the head. I have searched ebay to no great deal of success, which doesn't suprise me. So, help a guy out, like 98 to 00 4 cyl mopar engines have ev6 connectors and 4 hole spray ports, right? And also, they will work adequately on a stock 4.0? I read so much about the obd1 swaps that any real info about late model obd2 must have totally slipped past me. Someone knows, just not me....
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From: morrisonville ny
Year: 2000 @ 1994 givin away
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
2000 xj 4.0, which cars or trucks,vans can i get upgradeed injectors out of thanks all.
Last edited by rich; Jun 24, 2010 at 07:11 AM.
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From: Newport News,VA
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0L I6 H.O.
I got a set of injectors off Ebay for 90$, cleaned and with fresh o-rings.
They installed easy enough, same shape and size of the stockers, just 4 holed. I reset the ecu and everything, checked for leaks, all good.
Not sure on gas mileage yet. I haven't filled up since the install two... three weeks ago. It starts up a lot faster now, from a warm or mildly warm start. Bet more pep in it's step.
Totally worth the 90$ if you don't want to worry about the hassle of getting correct injectors from the jy.
They installed easy enough, same shape and size of the stockers, just 4 holed. I reset the ecu and everything, checked for leaks, all good.
Not sure on gas mileage yet. I haven't filled up since the install two... three weeks ago. It starts up a lot faster now, from a warm or mildly warm start. Bet more pep in it's step.
Totally worth the 90$ if you don't want to worry about the hassle of getting correct injectors from the jy.



