lockers vs welded spider gears
ive been thinking about putting lockers in the rear of my xj and one of my friends told me a cheaper way out is to weld the spider gears. ive drive my jeep at least 2-3 times a week to work and i was wondering if it would hurt it?
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From: Fairfield, CT
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i wheeled with a spool for 6 months in the rear and IMO its hard to beat that off road. As far as using it on road, i wouldnt ever do it again, it killed my rear tires a lot faster than the fronts, its my DD (obviously).
DD: no spool
offroad rig: spool
DD: no spool
offroad rig: spool
welded spiders is a cheap form of a spool.
i dd my rig with a spool and wish i went with a detroit.
the handling quirks arent too bad, its just the increased tire wear i dont like.
my daily driving also consists of 55-80 miles a day, 5-6 days a week.
if you dont put nearly as many miles on your jeepthough it might be worth the cash savings.
i dd my rig with a spool and wish i went with a detroit.
the handling quirks arent too bad, its just the increased tire wear i dont like.
my daily driving also consists of 55-80 miles a day, 5-6 days a week.
if you dont put nearly as many miles on your jeepthough it might be worth the cash savings.
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keep in mind that with a spool or a full out locker (like a air or electric) you put an incredible amount of torsional force on your teenie tiny axle shafts of a stock cherokee. If your running 33's or larger you have a good chance of snapping a axle (or your carrier) if you are taking a super tight turn on pavement. my personal opinion is to keep the open rear end if your running huge tires until you can swap in a stronger one.
any locker is supposed to have a certain amount of slippage to prevent tearing things up. the problem with welding the spider and axle gears is that there is no slipping at all. great for traction but bad when you put enough torque on it. when you put an immense amount of torque on that weld, theres absolutely no give to it and that can lead to twisting off axle shafts and whatnot (it happened to me). whereas with an actual locker there is a tiny bit of slippage allowed when huge amounts of torque are put on it. this prevents doing things like twisting off axle shafts.
any locker is supposed to have a certain amount of slippage to prevent tearing things up. the problem with welding the spider and axle gears is that there is no slipping at all. great for traction but bad when you put enough torque on it. when you put an immense amount of torque on that weld, theres absolutely no give to it and that can lead to twisting off axle shafts and whatnot (it happened to me). whereas with an actual locker there is a tiny bit of slippage allowed when huge amounts of torque are put on it. this prevents doing things like twisting off axle shafts.
yeah those shafts will be fine. and jinx, thats what i was taking about. with a traditional locker one tire is allowed to spin faster but with welded gears they are forced to spin at the same speed no matter what.
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