I know there ware a million out there: XJ running too hot
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
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Originally Posted by djb383
Now I'm confused.

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FWIW, 241.25 mathematically is overheating. LOL
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There are only 3 references to coolant temps in the FSM........160, 218 and 195. A 160 or 180 or 195 t-stat would fall in the 160-218 "range". The FSM says "on all engines, the t-stat is closed below 195 degrees".....so one would presume the factory installed t-stat was a 195. A 180 stat is/was sold at the dealerships. My experience with a 160 stat (in any vehicle) is the heater will suck when u need it most.
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Originally Posted by djb383
Normal operating temp "range" is 160-218, according to the book (OBD-II anyhow). A normal warm-up cycle is counted when coolant temp reaches 160 and on the opposite end, the efan is turned on at 218. I've never seen a reference to 210 as being "normal operating temp" anywhere in the FSM.
FWIW, 241.25 mathematically is overheating. LOL
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From: Salt Lake City, UT
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Normal operating temp "range" is 160-218, according to the book (OBD-II anyhow). A normal warm-up cycle is counted when coolant temp reaches 160 and on the opposite end, the efan is turned on at 218. I've never seen a reference to 210 as being "normal operating temp" anywhere in the FSM.
FWIW, 241.25 mathematically is overheating. LOL
FWIW, 241.25 mathematically is overheating. LOL
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
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If u run a digital ScanGauge (displays in 1 degree increments) like Bbasso and I, u will see how the temp fluctuates up/down depending on ambient temp and driving conditions but the dash gauge never (or only slightly) moves.
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From: Quincy
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Well I am at a loss. I replaced my fan clutch, I moved the aux trans cooler to about where the factory would have mounted it, I put in a 180 t-stat (they didn't have any 195's in stock). I don't understand. When in stop and go/ city driving the temp slowly creeps up unless I do something about it, like switch on the aux fan and turn the heat on full blast. On the highway. It stays a hair below the "210" mark and with the heat on, on the highway, goes down to between the quarter mark and "210". I am at a total loss and truly can't comprehend why in 2012 with all new parts it can't keep cool and in 96 straight out of the factory it had no problem. Obviously I am doing something wrong but what that is I have no idea. Again the only things I have not replaced to this point are all but one piece of hose and the heater core. Every other piece if the cooling system is brand new.
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Well I am at a loss. I replaced my fan clutch, I moved the aux trans cooler to about where the factory would have mounted it, I put in a 180 t-stat (they didn't have any 195's in stock). I don't understand. When in stop and go/ city driving the temp slowly creeps up unless I do something about it, like switch on the aux fan and turn the heat on full blast.
Slowly creeps up to what?
On the highway. It stays a hair below the "210" mark and with the heat on, on the highway, goes down to between the quarter mark and "210".
Mathematically, 1/2 way between the 1/4 mark and 210 is 182.5F....u said a 180F stat is now installed, no? Any motor will run cooler when using the heater.
I am at a total loss and truly can't comprehend why in 2012 with all new parts it can't keep cool and in 96 straight out of the factory it had no problem.
Again, between the 1/4 and 1/2 marks is 182.5F....what's the problem?
Obviously I am doing something wrong but what that is I have no idea. Again the only things I have not replaced to this point are all but one piece of hose and the heater core. Every other piece if the cooling system is brand new.
Slowly creeps up to what?
On the highway. It stays a hair below the "210" mark and with the heat on, on the highway, goes down to between the quarter mark and "210".
Mathematically, 1/2 way between the 1/4 mark and 210 is 182.5F....u said a 180F stat is now installed, no? Any motor will run cooler when using the heater.
I am at a total loss and truly can't comprehend why in 2012 with all new parts it can't keep cool and in 96 straight out of the factory it had no problem.
Again, between the 1/4 and 1/2 marks is 182.5F....what's the problem?
Obviously I am doing something wrong but what that is I have no idea. Again the only things I have not replaced to this point are all but one piece of hose and the heater core. Every other piece if the cooling system is brand new.
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From: Quincy
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Ok so I fixed it..... Please feel free to call me an idiot, fool, what have you. But I put a parts store universal cooling fan in because I was having trouble finding an or style at the stores, and the dealer wanted $560 for a fan and I actually laughed at the guy at the dealer parts counter. So I got one online and surprise. It works 10 times better than the universal pos the parts store had. Now why does it not kick on on its own at 218? I have to use the switch I installed to bring it on.
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From: Quincy
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
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Only for 2 weeks after I first got it. Then I replaced the damaged factory e-fan and after that it never went on on its own. When city driving once it starts to go up I kick on the fan and it fits down to just below 210 and I shut it off and it hangs there for a good amount of time and it will slowly creep back up and I kick the fan on when it does.


