Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

I got a jolt around 40~50mph

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-16-2008, 01:51 AM
  #1  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default I got a jolt around 40~50mph

When I'm cruising around 40~50mph, my jeep occasionally jolts. This isn't a constant jolt, it just happens once, seemingly randomly. I have a 5-spd manual 1987 cherokee and no idea what's going on.
Old 11-16-2008, 01:57 AM
  #2  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Do you think it is a random misfire or is it a backfire or a power loss?
Old 11-16-2008, 01:59 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

I'm thinking misfire, I haven't heard any bangs or anything like that so I don't think it's a backfire. I just seem to get one sudden random jolt. I don't think it's a power loss, vent keeps blowing through it without hesitation and there isn't even a twitch in volts or anything like that.

Last edited by hubbazoot; 11-16-2008 at 02:07 AM. Reason: Detail.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:07 AM
  #4  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Originally Posted by hubbazoot
I've been thinking misfire, I haven't heard any bangs or anything like that so I don't think it's a backfire. I just seem to get one sudden random jolt.
Have you done an ignition tune up lately. Could be a random sparkplug wire that is crossing over to another wire or a bad wire, or even a cracked cap. I have also seen a carbon track inside a cap cause a crossfire to an adjacent plug contact point. So I would consider a cap, rotor and wires to see if that eliminates your "jolt".
Old 11-16-2008, 02:08 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

i don't know how to do an ignition tune-up, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the issue. This vehicle is 20 yrs old and all of the plastic and rubber is pretty brittle.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:13 AM
  #6  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Originally Posted by hubbazoot
i don't know how to do an ignition tune-up, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the issue. This vehicle is 20 yrs old and all of the plastic and rubber is pretty brittle.
It is a simple exchange of parts but when you do the wires do just one at a time so as to not get them mixed up.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:14 AM
  #7  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Alright, did a bit of googling and it looks like there's a kit for this I buy. I'll poke a look into this next weekend. Thanks for your help. I'll post as soon as I find out if this is the case.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:20 AM
  #8  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Originally Posted by hubbazoot
Alright, did a bit of googling and it looks like there's a kit for this I buy. I'll poke a look into this next weekend. Thanks for your help. I'll post as soon as I find out if this is the case.

Most any parts store will have what you need. It can be bought seperately. Dont let them sell you something real special. Just basic wires with the ends already in place and a distributor cap and a rotor button. If you have a radio you will want the radio suppression wires so you won't have to listen to the static background on your radio.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:23 AM
  #9  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Alright, I'm replacing my hayes clutch tomorrow but I'll see about doing an ignition tune-up next weekend.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:27 AM
  #10  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Good deal.
Old 11-16-2008, 02:37 AM
  #11  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

What are the radio supression wires so I know what to look for? Are they just a thicker wire?
Old 11-16-2008, 10:33 AM
  #12  
Renix Super Guru
 
BlueXJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In yourz postez fissin jurr spelinzs
Posts: 24,653
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Default

Originally Posted by hubbazoot
What are the radio supression wires so I know what to look for? Are they just a thicker wire?
Sorry to be so slow in answering. They have a sheild built in that does not increase the size but is usually about like a covering within the rubber shell of the wire like a sleeve but it is integrated within the wire. It may be like a faraday cage (Google that) and keeps the magnetic pulses going through the wires from being picked up by the radio.
Old 11-16-2008, 11:50 AM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
JayM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

When you are replacing your clutch, replace the crank position sensor as well.
It is a royal pain to get to unless the tranny is out, take advantage of having room to get to this sensor.

At night open the hood and disable your under hood lamp.
Start the jeep, if you have really bad wires, you will see the wires arching together, Mine was arching from the wires into the head, got that studder (jolt) just liek you described. Just go to autozone, or whatever you local parts house is and get new plugs, cap rotor and wires. That is the extent of you ingnition tune up. Be carful of the gap on the plugs, make a big difference. Just get a gap guage and make sure you are gapped correctly. The gap is listed on an under hood sticker, and in your manual.
Old 11-16-2008, 04:17 PM
  #14  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Thanks, I'll check for arcing tonight. My '87 actually doesn't have an under-hood light, but I'll make sure I'm somewhere nice and dark (buhaha)
Old 11-20-2008, 09:13 PM
  #15  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
hubbazoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Metro Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Did the tune-up, runs like a charmer now. I noticed my jeep also starts a little better and it feels like I got a few more horsepower out of it. I'll write up a guide with pics.


Quick Reply: I got a jolt around 40~50mph



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 PM.