help with diff an pinion bearings please
i need to replace these asap....ive never pulled a diff apart....any suggestions or advice would be appreicated....an would diff bearings being bad cause a thud noise when turning but not when moving, ive gota thud sound which feels to be under the gas pedal when i turn but doesnt make noise moving ....just when i turn...its driving me crazy
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Originally Posted by mocrawlin
have u checked the ujoints in the front axle? ive also had sway bar links and links do that also when wore out. just a thought.
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Turn the wheel to the lock. Take a pry bar and insert it in to the spindle below axle shaft. Try prying up gently at first, on shaft. You should be able to tell if you joint is at fault.
And yes. Depending on how the u-joint is orientated, just turning the wheel will make the joint bind and pop if it's gone to the dark side.
And yes. Depending on how the u-joint is orientated, just turning the wheel will make the joint bind and pop if it's gone to the dark side.
Il check that my next day off...i also forgot to mention i got bout 1/2-3/4in of play in the front shaft ...not up in down play like a bad ujoint but its rotating that much...is that bout the normal play?
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I've got about that much play in my front shaft as well. Unless the 4wd is engaged. Then there's no play.
I'm guessing from your name your in WV? What part?
I'm guessing from your name your in WV? What part?
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If it does it while parked, track bar at axle or frame bracket is loose or a control arm bushing is shot.
Your LCA and UCA are pretty much under and above the pedal FWIW.
My money is on either bad track bar joint at the frame bracket, or loose track bar at the axle (pita to get tight enough) or MOST LIKELY the 4 bolts holding the track bar frame bracket are loose.
You won't be able to see it move and it'll seem tight but they aren't as ridiculously tight as they need to be.
Loosen them 1/2 turn first, the CRRRRRRAAAAANK them with an 18 inch breaker as "body weight +" tight as possible, and I bet the noise goes away.
I treat mine like a pinion nut: 190lbs+ minimum.
I chased the same noise you describe for a year, and thought I got the TB bolts tight enough till I used the breaker and voila, no noise again.
999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's TB, LCA, or UCA bushing related if not moving. Has to be an attachment point under load popping if not moving. Not likely driveline related.
Your LCA and UCA are pretty much under and above the pedal FWIW.
My money is on either bad track bar joint at the frame bracket, or loose track bar at the axle (pita to get tight enough) or MOST LIKELY the 4 bolts holding the track bar frame bracket are loose.
You won't be able to see it move and it'll seem tight but they aren't as ridiculously tight as they need to be.
Loosen them 1/2 turn first, the CRRRRRRAAAAANK them with an 18 inch breaker as "body weight +" tight as possible, and I bet the noise goes away.
I treat mine like a pinion nut: 190lbs+ minimum.
I chased the same noise you describe for a year, and thought I got the TB bolts tight enough till I used the breaker and voila, no noise again.
999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's TB, LCA, or UCA bushing related if not moving. Has to be an attachment point under load popping if not moving. Not likely driveline related.
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Originally Posted by ehracing67
Turn the wheel to the lock. Take a pry bar and insert it in to the spindle below axle shaft. Try prying up gently at first, on shaft. You should be able to tell if you joint is at fault.
And yes. Depending on how the u-joint is orientated, just turning the wheel will make the joint bind and pop if it's gone to the dark side.
And yes. Depending on how the u-joint is orientated, just turning the wheel will make the joint bind and pop if it's gone to the dark side.
If it does it while parked, track bar at axle or frame bracket is loose or a control arm bushing is shot.
Your LCA and UCA are pretty much under and above the pedal FWIW.
My money is on either bad track bar joint at the frame bracket, or loose track bar at the axle (pita to get tight enough) or MOST LIKELY the 4 bolts holding the track bar frame bracket are loose.
You won't be able to see it move and it'll seem tight but they aren't as ridiculously tight as they need to be.
Loosen them 1/2 turn first, the CRRRRRRAAAAANK them with an 18 inch breaker as "body weight +" tight as possible, and I bet the noise goes away.
I treat mine like a pinion nut: 190lbs+ minimum.
I chased the same noise you describe for a year, and thought I got the TB bolts tight enough till I used the breaker and voila, no noise again.
999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's TB, LCA, or UCA bushing related if not moving. Has to be an attachment point under load popping if not moving. Not likely driveline related.
Your LCA and UCA are pretty much under and above the pedal FWIW.
My money is on either bad track bar joint at the frame bracket, or loose track bar at the axle (pita to get tight enough) or MOST LIKELY the 4 bolts holding the track bar frame bracket are loose.
You won't be able to see it move and it'll seem tight but they aren't as ridiculously tight as they need to be.
Loosen them 1/2 turn first, the CRRRRRRAAAAANK them with an 18 inch breaker as "body weight +" tight as possible, and I bet the noise goes away.
I treat mine like a pinion nut: 190lbs+ minimum.
I chased the same noise you describe for a year, and thought I got the TB bolts tight enough till I used the breaker and voila, no noise again.
999,999 times out of 1,000,000 it's TB, LCA, or UCA bushing related if not moving. Has to be an attachment point under load popping if not moving. Not likely driveline related.
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Originally Posted by CherokeeChick
Nice set up!
I'm for huntington originally. Are you still using the stock control arms and track bar?
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Ok. I had a problem with track bar mount on the axle. There's a concealed nut held in place with a tab. Mine was broken but didn't seem like it till I started tearing it apart. Depending on the amount of rust, plan on replacing that nut. I made a new one Out of stainless for the future. That could be a culprit too.
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