Heating up-Idle (please help)
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From: Florida
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
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Congratulations! I am impressed, and I'm sincerely glad this worked out.
Regarding the weird turn the conversation has taken, let me see if I get this straight: Some of the forum members on a board full of do-it-yourselfers are actually suggesting that if you don't know how to do something, you shouldn't try to learn? I think she just proved that that's BS. For a newbie, ALL repair jobs are initially a challenge, and the only way to overcome that challenge is to tackle it head on with the right attitude, even when the whole project appears to have gone pear-shaped. You don't learn if you don't do it.
Our friend here handled these setbacks with extraordinary patience and not only came out the other side with a working vehicle but also with a huge bump in skill and experience. I'm glad she didn't give up.
Regarding the weird turn the conversation has taken, let me see if I get this straight: Some of the forum members on a board full of do-it-yourselfers are actually suggesting that if you don't know how to do something, you shouldn't try to learn? I think she just proved that that's BS. For a newbie, ALL repair jobs are initially a challenge, and the only way to overcome that challenge is to tackle it head on with the right attitude, even when the whole project appears to have gone pear-shaped. You don't learn if you don't do it.
Our friend here handled these setbacks with extraordinary patience and not only came out the other side with a working vehicle but also with a huge bump in skill and experience. I'm glad she didn't give up.
Well what do you know everything is done! Paid $10 to have a nearby mechanic PB blast the snapped bolt and pry the Tstat housing open!
So here's the breakdown:
Replaced the radiator cap
Replaced fan clutch ( only took 30 minutes) Replaced the water pump
Replaced the Tstat
Performed a coolant flush
No more overheating! Thanks guys (thank you, thank you, thank you) for all of the handholding and thanks photo4x5 for the encouragement. Thanks Firestorm for going all the way with me. That's what's up!!! Very helpful. Next time, I will do more research first!
Now I'm rolling in my XJ. I love her! Don't I look happy?!
So here's the breakdown:
Replaced the radiator cap
Replaced fan clutch ( only took 30 minutes) Replaced the water pump
Replaced the Tstat
Performed a coolant flush
No more overheating! Thanks guys (thank you, thank you, thank you) for all of the handholding and thanks photo4x5 for the encouragement. Thanks Firestorm for going all the way with me. That's what's up!!! Very helpful. Next time, I will do more research first!
Now I'm rolling in my XJ. I love her! Don't I look happy?!
Congrats on the fix. I read all 15 pages in one sitting. Shew! It appears in your pic as though your XJ is on it's side. I'd start a new thread for that fix.
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Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
NO>NO>NO new thread!!!! A lot of XJ's wind up on their sides and on their tops. Just roll them over and dust them off, they still roll on their wheels.
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
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Engine: 4.6 stroker
Some of the forum members on a board full of do-it-yourselfers are actually suggesting that if you don't know how to do something, you shouldn't try to learn? I think she just proved that that's BS. For a newbie, ALL repair jobs are initially a challenge, and the only way to overcome that challenge is to tackle it head on with the right attitude, even when the whole project appears to have gone pear-shaped. You don't learn if you don't do it.
EDIT: BTW WNJE, glad things are back to normal. You did the right thing here.
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I expect to have to learn how to deal with it some day. I hope it's a while down the road, though. Maybe after mastering more basic skills like 'the use of a volt meter'.
I was just...glad that I didn't end up in a 'well, you need to replace the engine' situation when I first started earlier this year like I feared I would.
In general, and I'm sorry I'm going wildly off topic, but I think this forum is a great place. It's full of knowledgeable, patient people willing to help those of us who are getting in over our heads. Even when 'over our head' is something as simple as replacing the thermostat.
Places like this are, to me, the best use of the internet. The free exchange of knowledge for the betterment of all.
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Year: 1997 (RHD)
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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Well what do you know everything is done! Paid $10 to have a nearby mechanic PB blast the snapped bolt and pry the Tstat housing open!
So here's the breakdown:
Replaced the radiator cap
Replaced fan clutch ( only took 30 minutes) Replaced the water pump
Replaced the Tstat
Performed a coolant flush
No more overheating!...
So here's the breakdown:
Replaced the radiator cap
Replaced fan clutch ( only took 30 minutes) Replaced the water pump
Replaced the Tstat
Performed a coolant flush
No more overheating!...
I guess what amazes me most, is how this took almost 14 pages and 200 posts to get(you) to the point of having replaced a cap and broke a bolt.....andthen, all of sudden, within the next few posts you did that whole list yourself? Without any further questions/guidance/advice!?!?....
Wow.Magic.That's some awesomely steep learning curve there....
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From: Up North, where it snows
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Thats great.
I guess what amazes me most, is how this took almost 14 pages and 200 posts to get(you) to the point of having replaced a cap and broke a bolt.....andthen, all of sudden, within the next few posts you did that whole list yourself? Without any further questions/guidance/advice!?!?....
Wow.Magic.That's some awesomely steep learning curve there....
I guess what amazes me most, is how this took almost 14 pages and 200 posts to get(you) to the point of having replaced a cap and broke a bolt.....andthen, all of sudden, within the next few posts you did that whole list yourself? Without any further questions/guidance/advice!?!?....
Wow.Magic.That's some awesomely steep learning curve there....
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From: Florida
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
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Broken bolts are a whole separate can of worms. By all means, learn what's involved, but if you've never extracted a broken bolt before, and have zero knowledge of how to do so, either have someone with the knowledge help you with it, or take it to someone who can get it done.
I have broken things while working on them and made the situation worse. In doing so, I usually learn something valuable, like how not to break things. Even if that ends up costing me more time and money, that's okay, because what I'm really paying for is an education.
Thats great.
I guess what amazes me most, is how this took almost 14 pages and 200 posts to get(you) to the point of having replaced a cap and broke a bolt.....andthen, all of sudden, within the next few posts you did that whole list yourself? Without any further questions/guidance/advice!?!?....
I guess what amazes me most, is how this took almost 14 pages and 200 posts to get(you) to the point of having replaced a cap and broke a bolt.....andthen, all of sudden, within the next few posts you did that whole list yourself? Without any further questions/guidance/advice!?!?....
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Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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And that's exactly what she did. When the bolt broke, there were people suggesting that she had been in over her head from the beginning and that we shouldn't have encouraged her to take on a job she didn't know how to do. Well, she WAS in over her head, but you never learn if you don't try.
I have broken things while working on them and made the situation worse. In doing so, I usually learn something valuable, like how not to break things. Even if that ends up costing me more time and money, that's okay, because what I'm really paying for is an education.
I don't think the timeline is really that unusual, just that some of the posters here are impatient.
I have broken things while working on them and made the situation worse. In doing so, I usually learn something valuable, like how not to break things. Even if that ends up costing me more time and money, that's okay, because what I'm really paying for is an education.
I don't think the timeline is really that unusual, just that some of the posters here are impatient.
Impatient? I think most people were very patient. Just frustrated by the absence of ear canal reception. The important thing here is she listened to advice at the right time, did what she needed to do, and is all smiles now.


