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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 02:44 PM
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This thread is not the first place I've heard this notion:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...&Number=894028

I do not recall correctly if my 1996 XJ radiator, that I just replaced with another brass/copper unit, has a ground path other than through the fluid. The top has 2 rubber vibration isolators that are bolted to the rad with metal nuts, and then the isolators are attached to the upper radiator support with nuts, so those are electrically isolated. The bottom goes into rubber grommets, with the condenser attached top and bottom to the radiator but don't remember how isolated that is.

The heater core is attached to the firewall(?), so that should be providing a good ground.

Any ideas on this one?
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 02:19 AM
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Interesting, I think it can't hurt. When I laid out $500 recently for a new hot water heater in my house, (which is absolutely ridiculous for a plain old bare bones old direct vent style. These things have gone through the roof for some reason/ through the roof, I made a funny) I wondered the same thing, if the galvanic action on the tank could be slowed by eliminating the potential between the hot and cold, so couple pipe clamps and some #6 bare copper and boom.
I'll let you know in 12 years or so if it gunked up.

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Check with an ohmmeter.......
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 11:29 AM
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Check with an ohmmeter.......
I plan on doing that when I'm messing with my battery terminals next weekend. Can put one lead on the cap and one to the block ground stud and see what I get. The filler neck is nice clean brass right now can check from there too with the cap off.

Another look today at the rad mounting and it does look isolated by the rubber bits. If it does not have good continuity, I will probably use a scrap piece of ground wire from the wiring I'm removing from the dead aux lights.

Side note: Lowe's has bolts that are a good match for the six at the ends of the radiator upper support.
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Side note, the six bolts at the ends of the upper radiator support are M6x1.00, 10mm head and Lowe's has very similar bolts for less than $2 a pair. They have thread farther down and are a little longer than the OE, so be careful and check if there is anything behind what you are installing them on.

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Seems like the best place to put a ground on a 1996 XJ radiator is under one of the top isolator pads. Mine is well painted, so going to have to rub that off and get down to bare metal. Passenger side appears easy to get the ground to the bolt that grounds the battery to the body too.

If needed, of course.
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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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Finally busted out the el cheapo multimeter. Somehow my radiator has a good ground. Really good, like almost as good as testing the leads to each other.

waste of time project avoided
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If it is in fact isolated from the frame, there is no need to ground it. Electrolysis only occurs if there is a path, whether it be liquid or metal. Grounding may actually cause a problem where none existed.
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Originally Posted by JWelk
If it is in fact isolated from the frame, there is no need to ground it. Electrolysis only occurs if there is a path, whether it be liquid or metal. Grounding may actually cause a problem where none existed.
If the path is through the coolant, that is undesirable.

To determine if that is the case, I will check it again while all the fluids are out when I do the week long flush this spring or so.
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Me thinks you need quite a sensitive ohm meter to read the resistance through the coolant
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Originally Posted by 97grand4.0
Me thinks you need quite a sensitive ohm meter to read the resistance through the coolant
why would that be? It is a far cry from distilled pure water. Unless I am reading your statement wrong of course.
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Because if you're reading a short now, it's quite low, way less than an ohm.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 97grand4.0
Because if you're reading a short now, it's quite low, way less than an ohm.
Ok. What I got from measuring at the upper exposed brass automatic transmission cooler nipple to the grounding screw on the inner fender near the air box was almost zero resistance.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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In 50 plus years of working on cars and trucks I have NEVER heard of anyone concerned about grounding a radiator, it is just not something one needs to worry about.

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