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Old May 8, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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I have a 3.5" lift with 31" trxus mt's on pro-comp black steelies that i think have 3.75" backspacing. Jeep's an 01. I find it rubbing on the front bumper fender, right at the bottom. it rubs on the street . I had 4" backspaced wheels on prior to these new ones and they didnt rub. Looks like i'm gonna have to cut cuz i can't go any higher. The control arms are already at a crappy angle. So i'm thinking of cutting the entire bottom section of the bumper, where the fog light holes are. Has anyone done this or have any pictures of their cutting? I would like to see how it looks before i chop. I do have plans for Detour's backbone winch setup, which keeps the stock bumper but adds d-rings and winch plate so i gotta make sure the bumper looks good permanently.

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Old May 8, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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ill get a picture later on today after school of mine and what it looks like but its a 96 and there a no fog light holes on my bumper. i just ripped the front piece off with my hands then tripped the fenders to go even with the bumper. if you get what im saying.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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ill get a picture later on today after school of mine and what it looks like but its a 96 and there a no fog light holes on my bumper. i just ripped the front piece off with my hands then tripped the fenders to go even with the bumper. if you get what im saying.

We'll wait for the pictures. How do you trip fenders anyway? I have tripped over fenders while intoxicated, but have never tripped the actual fenders. Just curious.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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We'll wait for the pictures. How do you trip fenders anyway? I have tripped over fenders while intoxicated, but have never tripped the actual fenders. Just curious.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Thanks mud, I think I understand. He put dirt bike fenders on his XJ. COOOOLLLL.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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A. Turn the rims around backwards - for offset.

B. Trim your fenders - and if it's rubbing on the back of the fender you're gunna have an aweful time trying to make it look good. You could always just trim the whole fender...?
OR if you have adjustable arms then you could adjust the axle forward a half inch or so to keep it from rubbing the back and trim a bit on the front. Seems easy enough. My 35s don't rub in the front...

C. Go back to the other wheels....
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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A. Turn the rims around backwards - for offset.

B. Trim your fenders - and if it's rubbing on the back of the fender you're gunna have an aweful time trying to make it look good. You could always just trim the whole fender...?
OR if you have adjustable arms then you could adjust the axle forward a half inch or so to keep it from rubbing the back and trim a bit on the front. Seems easy enough. My 35s don't rub in the front...

C. Go back to the other wheels....
Never seen any one do A. before have you seen this done?
C. seems kinda obvious even to a noob.
B. involves work with a sawsall or a plasma or something kinda permanent.
Well if you have adjustable arms wouldn't you have to adjust both uppers and lowers equally to keep the caster correct?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Never seen any one do A. before have you seen this done?
C. seems kinda obvious even to a noob.
B. involves work with a sawsall or a plasma or something kinda permanent.
Well if you have adjustable arms wouldn't you have to adjust both uppers and lowers equally to keep the caster correct?

A. I hope you know I was kidding... I forgot my

C. Yes, I should hope so!

B. Yes, that requires adjustable uppers and lowers! Both have to be adjusted equally. Edit: Well, actually the lowers would have to be extended a smidge more but so little it wouldn't matter. Also, don't go too far as you won't have enough threads engaged... and never trust an allignment shop, they will leave you on the side of a trail because they didn't have but 2 threads engaged on your RK long arms... URG!

D. Why did we get out of order? Did we forget our ACB's, Mikey?

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Originally Posted by lowrange2
A. Turn the rims around backwards - for offset.

B. Trim your fenders - and if it's rubbing on the back of the fender you're gunna have an aweful time trying to make it look good. You could always just trim the whole fender...?
OR if you have adjustable arms then you could adjust the axle forward a half inch or so to keep it from rubbing the back and trim a bit on the front. Seems easy enough. My 35s don't rub in the front...

C. Go back to the other wheels....
A: uhh...nah.

B: Gonna. It's only rubbin in the front lower fender, not the backside. I prefer to keep the factory fenders cuz they look good. I can't go flareless or trim them off. PA laws......

C: I would if they were true. I'm full of luck. I was given two out of round wheels and 4 hopping tires at once. 4wd Hardware came through and fixed my problem though with a whole new set at no charge. The only problem was 4wd gave me 3.75" backspacing and not the 4" that i had before. I can't complain, they were free. I got to keep the old wheels That's what i call great customer service...that i hope the "faulty vender" that's been lurking this forum learns.

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Old May 8, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Wasn't gonna comment on B. but thought that anyone who was following this thread might not know as much about caster as they should so decided to include it at the last minute. Andy Boy kinda like John Boy only the S.C. version.
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Originally Posted by muddeprived
edit: darn it, a wasted post. lowrange beat me to it. I'm slow. Please delete.
Read lowrange2s intro post he calls himself a POST ***** and that's what he is, but always intelligent and trustworthy. If he tells you something you can count on him, unless he forgets his cell phone at home. Ha Ha LMAO
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Originally Posted by lowrange2
A. Turn the rims around backwards - for offset...
I used to wheel early 80s models Subarus (yeah I know, but they were really cheap and plentiful at the time, and would outgo any toyota sitting on 33s). I always ran the factory Jackman wagon wheels, and cut the front fenders out on them. The wheels could be turned around backwards!! Great for wheeling but hell on ball joints and wheel bearings.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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unless he forgets his cell phone at home. Ha Ha LMAO

HEY HEY HEY I came thru didn't I? Left my house at midnight to drive for 3 hours!
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HEY HEY HEY I came thru didn't I? Left my house at midnight to drive for 3 hours!
Yes you did so thats why I said you could be trusted. I trust you didn't take offense at that cell phn thing.
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Originally Posted by junkyarddawg00
I used to wheel early 80s models Subarus (yeah I know, but they were really cheap and plentiful at the time, and would outgo any toyota sitting on 33s). I always ran the factory Jackman wagon wheels, and cut the front fenders out on them. The wheels could be turned around backwards!! Great for wheeling but hell on ball joints and wheel bearings.
What ever happened to Jackman wheels? Had some on a dune buggy I built in the 70s great little chopped up VW pan with a big ole Porshe engine in it and White Jackman wheels Which were flat on both sides of the lugnut hole so you could reverse them as I recall. Drowned that thing a thousand time on the outer banks north of Duck, N.C.
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