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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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no, same belt. alt is a rebuilt.
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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigclubs
"Don't Worry" is sometimes not the best advise, the squeeling is telling you something should be checked. I have a 96 that the belt would squeel when turning on the AC, squeel during very damp weather or placing the heat setting to front window defrost, but not when I put it on heat or vent.
I changed belts twice, tightened the belt accounting for stretching. My jeep mechanic friend told me to us AC Delco and not those cross cut style belts. Use the full straight rib style belt. I changed to this type of belt and the noise went away for quite a while except for really damp rainy days. It would squeel at start up until the belt dried out. When it came back after a year, i also looked at the alternator, AC compressor, water pump etc. My guage would drop some when the squeel appeared, so I was looking at replacing the alternator, figuring the bearings were going south.

One day the squeel turned to a metal grind noise and my battery light came on so I fugured the alternater was shot.
I made it to Sears Auto where I work part time for extra cash to have one of my buddies check the alternator. He opened the hood, I started the engine and Power Steering Pump blew, spraying fluid all over the engine.
The squeeling has been my Pump bearings all this time.

So take a look, tighten the belt again and check all the pulleys and bearings the belt comes in contact with. XJ surpentine belts seem to need to be tight!!
i think there is a middle ground here. dont worry in the sence that your not doing harm, BUT, be aware that the squealing is pretty much an alarm... "is that a good alarm" "sir, have you ever known an alarm to be good?" (simpsons)
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GovernorKC
I had a very similar problem. when the Jeep was cold and turned on defrost i would get a squeal. after engine would warm up or i got to about 50mph the squeal would stop.

then one day i lost all power and car died and wouldnt start. had it towed in battery and alternator replaced.

problem was fixed, no squealing for about a week. now the squeal is back. any ideas? could something me causing the alternator to go bad?
Slim chance, but if you had some huge short that drew a ton of power, you could have stressed your alternator diodes to the point of failure.

take it to NAPA or something, and have them test your alt with AC/heat off, and then on
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Old Mar 31, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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In my case the telltale sign that the alternator was the problem was the build-up of black belt 'dust' around the alt. pulley and on the housing directly around the pulley. That was a pretty strong indicator that the alternator shaft was turning slower than the belt was moving and so the belt was sliding over the pulley causing friction and disintegrating the belt.

My battery and cables are new So I expect that Troths post was accurate. Based on this I can assume that tightening the belt would mask the symptomatic squealing issue temporarily by increasing the grip on the pulley to compensate for the drag but will not actually fix the problem. It's pretty obvious what the eventual result of this will be.

I went to the salvage yard, pulled a used dakota alternator, had it tested at a local parts place, replaced my alternator with it, retightened the same belt to the original tension and the problem was completely gone. I then replaced my belt with a new AC Delco. I meant to have my original tested but returned it as a core during a brain fart.

Coincidentally, my wifes mazda protege was having an identical (not exactly, her overload was caused by a combination of headlights, rear defrost, and heater) problem. Same fix, same result.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by xj2fsj
In my case the telltale sign that the alternator was the problem was the build-up of black belt 'dust' around the alt. pulley and on the housing directly around the pulley. That was a pretty strong indicator that the alternator shaft was turning slower than the belt was moving and so the belt was sliding over the pulley causing friction and disintegrating the belt.

My battery and cables are new So I expect that Troths post was accurate. Based on this I can assume that tightening the belt would mask the symptomatic squealing issue temporarily by increasing the grip on the pulley to compensate for the drag but will not actually fix the problem. It's pretty obvious what the eventual result of this will be.

I went to the salvage yard, pulled a used dakota alternator, had it tested at a local parts place, replaced my alternator with it, retightened the same belt to the original tension and the problem was completely gone. I then replaced my belt with a new AC Delco. I meant to have my original tested but returned it as a core during a brain fart.

Coincidentally, my wifes mazda protege was having an identical (not exactly, her overload was caused by a combination of headlights, rear defrost, and heater) problem. Same fix, same result.


Sweet! Yeah, the heater/ac draw a ton of power. my babys gettin older, and when I start her up I let it idle to warm up with no headlights on or heater or anything. but when I am crusing, my 270 AMP doesnt hurt either!
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Old Apr 2, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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270?!? Wowie! Where did you get it and who makes it and how much was it!
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xj2fsj
270?!? Wowie! Where did you get it and who makes it and how much was it!


I apologize, its 170, haha hit the wrong button. It's a Powermaster
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Tease.
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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I am having the same problem. It didn't start untill I replaced my alternator. I got a rebuit.
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Old Feb 25, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scott t
With the start of all of this cold weather my 01 Cherokee Sport has picked up a squeal in the front end. I replaced my serpentine belt the beginning of December, so the belt is fairly new. The squeal happens for a short time when I start the Jeep, but starts again when I run the heat, and also during acceleration. Also, tonight (not sure if this problem is related) the voltmeter reading dropped to minus 5 (9) and the check gauges light came on. This makes me think that my alternator is bad, but I'm not sure if that would account for the squeal.

This just has me stumped. Any input appreciated

I have the 4.0 L straight six and everything else is stock

Thanks

Scott
Same thing has been happening to me!
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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This is damn near necrophilia.

Is the belt tight enough/too tight?

It could be the alt. but it could be any other pulley crapping out.

On mine it was the AC pulley which should freewheel until the AC or Defrost turns on. Maybe try switching from AC/or Defrost to just heat, and see if it changes noises.

Best way to tell might be to drop the belt and spin the pullies by hand and listen/feel for any crunching.
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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My belt started squeeling this winter when very cold out. I tightened and re-tightened the belt and it still made noise. just replaced water pump and belt about a year ago.

Finally started getting fluctuating volt meter readings and "check gauges" lite. Parts store helped me discover the alternator was bad.

Stock alt. was a 90 amp so I ordered the 120 amp. Man that turned into a job. I removed the engine mount from the left side of engine and that wasn't much help.

Ended up taking the battery and tray out and did some grinding on the alt. mount to make room for the bigger alt. . So far so good. removing battery and tray also made it MUCH easier to get the alt. in and out of the vehicle.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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I'm new to the site (love it) I have a 2000 and it dose exactly the same thing and the 1,2,3,4 switch (high to low) blower, is acting up was told to check a inline resister between the switch and the blower motor (under pass side dash) can cause excess drain on alt. I guess its a easy fix but location may vary depending on the year. I just found this out and haven't had time to check it out but I hope that it might save you some time and money
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