Freon substitue
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
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Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Anyone ever use Enviro Safe Freon yet ? Es12a-Industrial 12a.
Last edited by freegdr; Jun 22, 2013 at 04:04 PM.
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
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From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
I'm running it now in an old GM R12 system instead of R12. Uses the same oil, its pretty much a drop-in replacement. It cools about as well as the R12 did, perhaps a slight bit better. The pressures are lower.
It's a mix of predominantly propane and butane if that is an issue for you, the stuff is flammable, thus not legal to use in states that ban flammable refrigerants for automotive use.
It's a mix of predominantly propane and butane if that is an issue for you, the stuff is flammable, thus not legal to use in states that ban flammable refrigerants for automotive use.
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From: Hainsville, NJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
I'm running it now in an old GM R12 system instead of R12. Uses the same oil, its pretty much a drop-in replacement. It cools about as well as the R12 did, perhaps a slight bit better. The pressures are lower.
It's a mix of predominantly propane and butane if that is an issue for you, the stuff is flammable, thus not legal to use in states that ban flammable refrigerants for automotive use.
It's a mix of predominantly propane and butane if that is an issue for you, the stuff is flammable, thus not legal to use in states that ban flammable refrigerants for automotive use.
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from here: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrig...2alng.html#q16
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
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From: Broward County Fl.
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Caracticus Potts The Mod
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From: Hainsville, NJ
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from here: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrig...2alng.html#q16
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
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From: Fort Erie, CANADA
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Advanced Auto has an R12 to R134 conversion kit for about $50. It comes with replacement expansion valves I think.
I've used the Duracool stuff before (not with my Jeep). It works.
I've used the Duracool stuff before (not with my Jeep). It works.
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from here: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrig...2alng.html#q16
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
"The following 19 states ban the use of flammable refrigerants such as HC-12aŽ and DURACOOL 12aŽ in motor vehicle air conditioning, regardless of the original refrigerant: Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, and the District of Columbia."
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From: Parham, ON
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