FINALLY got my lift kit
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From: Orlando, FL
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
so i finally got my lift kit
i bought a rubicon express 3.5" super ride with the full leaf pack
is there anything i need to know about this lift before i install?
i also got the shocks that go with it
thanks
kc
i bought a rubicon express 3.5" super ride with the full leaf pack
is there anything i need to know about this lift before i install?
i also got the shocks that go with it
thanks
kc
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From: Grand Haven, Michigan
Year: 1998, 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Spray the nuts and bolts with your favorite rust-buster several times a day for several days before you start... The RE instructions aren't that good so take your time. A torque wrench for reassembly... A couple floor jacks and a couple (4 is better) jack stands...
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From: corpus christi, texas
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I6
all times i have done lifts, i spent all day saturday. i like to take my time and not be rushed when doing suspension stuff
i did a 2.5 spring replacement lift with shocks on my wife's liberty, 2" budget boost on my cherokee, and 3" spring replacement on my comanchee
i did a 2.5 spring replacement lift with shocks on my wife's liberty, 2" budget boost on my cherokee, and 3" spring replacement on my comanchee
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From: Orlando, FL
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yea it comes with an extension but i didn't know if there was like a suggestion of like a new track bar or something because right now i have the death wobble and its only gunna get worse when i lift it
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For install, I downloaded the RC 4.5" lift instructions. It has photos and is basically the same operation. Get torque values before you get started and read the "how to" post for lifting.
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From: corpus christi, texas
Year: 1999
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if it wobbles, try replacing the little shock across the front of the axle. it stopped the wobble on my comanchee and my dad's 89 cherokee. a ton of people will say that won't do it but it did it on two i have personally driven so i always replace that first when i get any wobble
SuperJ is talking about a steering stabilizer. Many here ride without them. They tend to operate as a band-aid rather than a cure. I ended up going with one when I installed my lift because I knew I had other components on their way out and I needed a quick 'patch' until I could afford to replace the steering parts.
If you already have wobble, a lift may only serve as a magnifier. If it were my rig, I'd fix the wobble before I put the lift on. At the very least, get all torque specs and inspect and torque every bolt and component as you lift. Get the Jeep aligned when you're done and go ahead and grab an adjustable trackbar (for centering your front axle after the lift). Carparts.com is selling the rough country Adjustable track bar for $58 shipped free. I wanted beefier, so I got the IRO variety, but it is a smart option.
Oh, and ask questiosn as you go. Have a few friends to help/make the time go by faster/help problem solve any issue you may run into.
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If you already have wobble, a lift may only serve as a magnifier. If it were my rig, I'd fix the wobble before I put the lift on. At the very least, get all torque specs and inspect and torque every bolt and component as you lift. Get the Jeep aligned when you're done and go ahead and grab an adjustable trackbar (for centering your front axle after the lift). Carparts.com is selling the rough country Adjustable track bar for $58 shipped free. I wanted beefier, so I got the IRO variety, but it is a smart option.
Oh, and ask questiosn as you go. Have a few friends to help/make the time go by faster/help problem solve any issue you may run into.
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From: Grand Haven, Michigan
Year: 1998, 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
You could just buy the RE adjustable trac bar and be done with it. I like mine... It took me a whole weekend to install the lift by myself with a fully equipped garage minus a lift. Slow is good!
Luckily your in Florida so I assume the Jeep isn't rusty. I did have to cut one of my forward leaf spring bolts off though and I bought my Cherokee out of Florida.
I have the same lift as you. I went with an SYE, front driveshaft for the rear, RE monotubes, straightened front brake lines, RE adjustable trac bar and rotated pinion with rewelded perches. It's also a good idea to bumpstop it when you lift it also... Plan on an alingnment. You can do the toe-in yourself so you don't kill the tires driving over the the alingnment shop.
I you have death wobble now it will only get worse with the lift... Have you searched for that and mapped out a plan of attack while your installing your new lift?
You most likely don't want to hear it but that guys idea about curing the DW before you lift makes a lot of sense...
Let us know how it goes...
Mike
Luckily your in Florida so I assume the Jeep isn't rusty. I did have to cut one of my forward leaf spring bolts off though and I bought my Cherokee out of Florida.
I have the same lift as you. I went with an SYE, front driveshaft for the rear, RE monotubes, straightened front brake lines, RE adjustable trac bar and rotated pinion with rewelded perches. It's also a good idea to bumpstop it when you lift it also... Plan on an alingnment. You can do the toe-in yourself so you don't kill the tires driving over the the alingnment shop.
I you have death wobble now it will only get worse with the lift... Have you searched for that and mapped out a plan of attack while your installing your new lift?
You most likely don't want to hear it but that guys idea about curing the DW before you lift makes a lot of sense...
Let us know how it goes...
Mike
I just finished installing the same kit on my '98 Cherokee. This was my first lift install, though I've been doing "shadetree" car repair/upgrades for 25 years. The RE instructions leave out a lot of detail. You'll need a little more than average mechanical aptitude, IMO. For instance:
My Cherokee has ABS, yet the instructions completely ignore ABS. Not a huge deal, but the brake line mods (front and rear) will need to account for that, and it may slow you down (but it won't stop you, no pun intended).
The trackbar re-location mod could have included more detail, such as a photo to ease my apprehension about how close the hole will end up to the edge of the mount, and how to make sure your holes in the front and rear of the mount line up (hint, drill the front hole first, then use the trackbar to guide the drill bit to the rear to score the center of the hole in the rear). Drill sizes would have been nice in the prep steps. I think they leave that out to sell more adjustable track bars. I nutted up and drilled mine, worked out well.
The front swaybar link adapters didn't come with instructions, so there was a bit of puzzle-put-together there that wasted some time. Also, the stock swaybar link pin is pressed into the bracket on the axle, and is too short to re-use with the new link adapters, so I had to use a torch to heat the bracket and have a buddy support the bracket while I hammered the pin out. They didn't mention the "heat wrench" in the list of required tools.
It would have been nice to include the method for installing the rear leaf springs too. It's not hard, but knowing the "right" way will save time figuring it out (and a split knuckle in my case). Hint: drop the axle as far as it will go, attach the rear eye bolt first, then use a breaker bar behind the rear shackle to shove the whole thing forward to line up the front eye bolt. Pull down on the spring to line up the front eye bolt, or use a prybar between the body and the spring to line it up.
Also, if you have a receiver hitch, you may need to remove it to get the rear spring eye bolts out. I did anyway.
Other than that, including torque specs seems like a simple thing to include, but they didn't except for the leaf spring pins (I have the AAL kit).
Great kit though. Good luck!
My Cherokee has ABS, yet the instructions completely ignore ABS. Not a huge deal, but the brake line mods (front and rear) will need to account for that, and it may slow you down (but it won't stop you, no pun intended).
The trackbar re-location mod could have included more detail, such as a photo to ease my apprehension about how close the hole will end up to the edge of the mount, and how to make sure your holes in the front and rear of the mount line up (hint, drill the front hole first, then use the trackbar to guide the drill bit to the rear to score the center of the hole in the rear). Drill sizes would have been nice in the prep steps. I think they leave that out to sell more adjustable track bars. I nutted up and drilled mine, worked out well.
The front swaybar link adapters didn't come with instructions, so there was a bit of puzzle-put-together there that wasted some time. Also, the stock swaybar link pin is pressed into the bracket on the axle, and is too short to re-use with the new link adapters, so I had to use a torch to heat the bracket and have a buddy support the bracket while I hammered the pin out. They didn't mention the "heat wrench" in the list of required tools.
It would have been nice to include the method for installing the rear leaf springs too. It's not hard, but knowing the "right" way will save time figuring it out (and a split knuckle in my case). Hint: drop the axle as far as it will go, attach the rear eye bolt first, then use a breaker bar behind the rear shackle to shove the whole thing forward to line up the front eye bolt. Pull down on the spring to line up the front eye bolt, or use a prybar between the body and the spring to line it up.
Also, if you have a receiver hitch, you may need to remove it to get the rear spring eye bolts out. I did anyway.
Other than that, including torque specs seems like a simple thing to include, but they didn't except for the leaf spring pins (I have the AAL kit).
Great kit though. Good luck!
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