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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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theres a ballast resistor bypass relay located out side of pdc box also need to check o2 sensor wiring for shorts that fuse also powers o2 good luckhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...1c.V2nggyXnfdk
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
have you unpluged fuel pump and see if fuse still blew?
Just tried this and it did NOT blow...
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Bypassing the ballast resistor won't really change anything. (unless it's bad/"open"/(not passing current))

Renix Jeeps have an "Electronic Control Unit", to 90, then it's Power Control Module after that. (ECU>PCM)

No, a relay is not like a fuse or breaker. Current passing from the "right hand" to the "left hand" energizes a coil that closes points to then pass current from the toes to the head. The "SPDT" "single pole , double throw" we have even passes current from the toes, out the belly button (middle), while it's not energized. (then cuts that with current passing through it's coil)(hence, "double throw")

Circuits can get pretty clever there, grounding, or energizing different terminals.

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Jeep-a-Lot
Just tried this and it did NOT blow...

Was this with relays in or relays out?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Jeep-a-Lot
Just tried this and it did NOT blow...
Relays in correct, so this tells you what ?

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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Quiet everyone ......
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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And the answer is........
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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gonna start new trend ask questions back when helping its more fun...lol...
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Relays in correct, so this tells you what ?
Yep relays were in, so is the pump itself shorted somehow? how could that be?

I checked the o2 sensor, and everything visibly looked alright. though now that I see the location of the o2 sensor, this would probably be a good time to mention I recently found a crack in my exhaust manifold...its right above the connection to the pipe section with the o2 sensor. is there more than 1 o2 sensor? Looks like the manual shows only 1...



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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Airtex pump.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by freegdr
Airtex pump.
I should've just replaced that piece of junk right off the bat. Gonna put in a quality pump tomorrow...any recommendations? Carter or Bosch?

Thanks a bunch for the help everyone, I'll post again with results after I put a different one in tomorrow.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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bosch is factory oem pretty sure
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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Cool, there's a local store here that carries Bosch pumps....knew I should have stayed away from O'Riely's for any important parts haha.
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