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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Ok so my xj has 195,000 it runs pretty good my problem is while going up a long steep hill i lose power and oil shoots out the rms plus it gets hot im thinking that its on the way to the grave any ideas thanx parts i just did head gasket vc gasket new oil pump and pan gasket and new rms its weird if i just stick to main streets with out lots of hills it runs great no leaks nothin but the first good size hill and old ladies in jazzy chairs are movin faster
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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Is that front CCV vent free and unrestricted? (suppose to be routed to the air cleaner.) If it can't vent blow-by there, it will do as you describe, the leaking that is.
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Is that front CCV vent free and unrestricted? (suppose to be routed to the air cleaner.) If it can't vent blow-by there, it will do as you describe, the leaking that is.
Ya everything breathes fine
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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I only have issues when i give it gas up hills how could it vent fine then stop makes no sense
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Do you have an auto or manual tranny
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Oh! I read it wrong...thought you were leaking when you gassed it on a hill. You might start with checking fuel pressure. There is a test port on the fuel rail...should be about 31# , then go up to about 39# with the vacuum line off the regulator. I take it your plugs are good at .035, cap/rotor/wires are not the issue?

Not really what you are describing...well maybe...the little tube from the inside of the TB, back and up to the MAP sensor up there on the firewall is supper crucial. The MAP NEEDS to have that perfect to tell the ECU how much gas to dump in there. Usually a problem there makes it rich though.


Whoops, wait, what year?
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Do you have an auto or manual tranny
Auto
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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This may not be a fix but an easy test. Have you tried putting her in third when you go up hills. She's struggling for sure. Trying to think about your issue though
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
Oh! I read it wrong...thought you were leaking when you gassed it on a hill. You might start with checking fuel pressure. There is a test port on the fuel rail...should be about 31# , then go up to about 39# with the vacuum line off the regulator. I take it your plugs are good at .035, cap/rotor/wires are not the issue?

Not really what you are describing...well maybe...the little tube from the inside of the TB, back and up to the MAP sensor up there on the firewall is supper crucial. The MAP NEEDS to have that perfect to tell the ECU how much gas to dump in there. Usually a problem there makes it rich though.

Whoops, wait, what year?
92 none renix lol and wires cap rotor all new i have good fuel pressure and no codes either even when it acts up if i stay away from hills its fine no leaks good power good mileage
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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This may not be a fix but an easy test. Have you tried putting her in third when you go up hills. She's struggling for sure. Trying to think about your issue though
Yes i have funny you say that it seems to help for a short time then depending on the size of the hill still goes haywire
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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I think its time for a rebuild the po just didnt take care of it
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Since you said you have a Renix. Have you tried refreshing all your grounds. Hell it's worth a shot. Hopefully you can come to a resolve cause 195 is still young
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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Since you said you have a Renix. Have you tried refreshing all your grounds. Hell it's worth a shot. Hopefully you can come to a resolve cause 195 is still young
92 is none renix 91 is last year for them
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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True never mind just re read and saw that. When did this start happening. Did it happen all at once. Little at a time. What kind of oil you running. Seems like pointless questions but hopefully someone sees all this and can come to a conclusion
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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True never mind just re read and saw that. When did this start happening. Did it happen all at once. Little at a time. What kind of oil you running. Seems like pointless questions but hopefully someone sees all this and can come to a conclusion
It was always like this but this past weekend was the worst experience its just getting worse it has a top end tick the oil pressure moves around when i give it gas but then stabilizes and then works like it should i should prolly do the timeing set up new gears and chain but everything ive done this far has not helped i think its time to bite the bullet
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