Is this a Dry Start?
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Do a little reading, then u'll be able to make your own educated call.
http://www.supramania.com/aehaas/
http://www.supramania.com/aehaas/
I think I have concluded that I would have been better getting ino a 5W-30, especially for winter. Not going to worry about dropping the oil pan to check the pickup...as the folks here that have looked all seem to think that the pressure rise is about typical (and the slight longer rise I will attribute to the 10W-30, and the 3000 miles already logged on this oil change.)
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Thanks, djb. I vaguely remember reading this about 100 years ago! I have only gotten through 101 and 102 tonight...but definitely will read more this week!
I think I have concluded that I would have been better getting ino a 5W-30, especially for winter. Not going to worry about dropping the oil pan to check the pickup...as the folks here that have looked all seem to think that the pressure rise is about typical (and the slight longer rise I will attribute to the 10W-30, and the 3000 miles already logged on this oil change.)
I think I have concluded that I would have been better getting ino a 5W-30, especially for winter. Not going to worry about dropping the oil pan to check the pickup...as the folks here that have looked all seem to think that the pressure rise is about typical (and the slight longer rise I will attribute to the 10W-30, and the 3000 miles already logged on this oil change.)
I took notice this morning of mine. it was 9* when I left. I poor man primed it and it immediately fired and showed oil pressure in maybe 1 second. 5w40 t6 with 5k miles on it. 152k mile motor.
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Pressure is one thing and flow is another. There can easily be instant/excellent pressure with virtually no/very little flow. If there's very little/no oil flow, there's very little/no lubrication, but the gauge could be showing excellent pressure. The quicker lubricant flows from the bottom of the motor (the pan) to the top (valve train), the quicker the lubrication process begins.
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Your fine.
- Electric gages have a certain amount of damping
- On cold startup engines have enough residual oil on everything to actually run quite some time without pressure.
- Even when pressure builds on gage it can take MINUTES before oil gets to rockers!
- No foul no harm
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.....and the more resistance to flow, the longer it takes to get to moving parts, especially the rockers. Seems like I read (back before the Internet) that most engine wear occurs occurs at start-up, when there's less than normal lubrication occuring.
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Well, some guy just pointed me to this Motor Oil thread that is on the internet...from Motor Oil 101, 5th paragraph..."It is said that 90 percent of engine wear occurs at startup. If we are interested in engine longevity then we should concentrate our attention at reducing engine wear at startup."
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Dry start wear will be reduced when the lubricating oil has less resistance to flow, or splash for that matter.
I'd like to see that same video comparing/testing the cold pour/flow ability of 5W40 vs 0W30. Something tells me................no contest.
I'd like to see that same video comparing/testing the cold pour/flow ability of 5W40 vs 0W30. Something tells me................no contest.
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