do i need
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From: Ga
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 inline 6
what the heck is sye im doing mine n a could days going 2 use the military base so i can use there tools and there lift.Im doing a lift using rustys 3inch lift coils n the front and s-10 leaves n the rear.
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From: Okc area
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
SYE is a slip yoke eliminator. On newer jeeps they generally need one. A tc drop will help for sure but for serious wheelin SYE is idea. Drewdertuder you likely won't need one on your jeep. I have almost 4.5" and need one on my 91 but when I was at around 2-3" didn't need one.
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Year: 1990XJ/1989MJ
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Each XJ is an individual so it is difficult to determine which will need a SYE or which will not. The newer your XJ the more likely a SYE will be needed and the same principle can be used for a T/C drop. Some may be fixed with it and some may not. The vibes are always different too. Some may be so severe that you can't drive out your driveway and some may be so mild that you can hardly feel it at any speed, while others may only be felt at a certain speed and disappear at any speed above or below that one speed.
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From: Phoenix AZ
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6ho
You have a 231 t-case.
Rubicon Express has a great deal on "hack and tap" SYE and CV driveshaft. I know a few folks running them (myself included).
The 97 and up 231 cases had a longer output shaft than their older brothers. The longer shaft acts as a lever inside the case... combine that with the increased drive shaft angles, and you end up with vibrations.
How sever depends on a rather complicated recipe of drivetrain components… ax15 vs aw4, 231 vs 242, D35 vs 8.25… some combinations do ok with small lifts, some cannot handle 1” over stock (this I know from experience).
I got my RE hack and tap conversion and driveshaft from DPGoffroad... very helpfull folks.
Good luck to you.
Rubicon Express has a great deal on "hack and tap" SYE and CV driveshaft. I know a few folks running them (myself included).
The 97 and up 231 cases had a longer output shaft than their older brothers. The longer shaft acts as a lever inside the case... combine that with the increased drive shaft angles, and you end up with vibrations.
How sever depends on a rather complicated recipe of drivetrain components… ax15 vs aw4, 231 vs 242, D35 vs 8.25… some combinations do ok with small lifts, some cannot handle 1” over stock (this I know from experience).
I got my RE hack and tap conversion and driveshaft from DPGoffroad... very helpfull folks.
Good luck to you.
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From: Schnecksville, PA
Year: 94 XJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Depends on the type of SYE you purchase.
The Hack-n-Tap style: simply remove driveshaft. Cut output shaft to designated length and tap center. New mounting plate gets bolted over output shaft.
The more expensive units require removal of the output shaft housing from the TC.
Each have thier Pros and Cons.
But for the less mechanically-inclined I would suggest the Hack-n-Tap style for Up to 3.5" lifts.
The Hack-n-Tap style: simply remove driveshaft. Cut output shaft to designated length and tap center. New mounting plate gets bolted over output shaft.
The more expensive units require removal of the output shaft housing from the TC.
Each have thier Pros and Cons.
But for the less mechanically-inclined I would suggest the Hack-n-Tap style for Up to 3.5" lifts.
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From: Oak Harbor, WA.
Year: 1987
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 liter RENIX I-6, DIY Cold Air Intake, 2.5 FM Exhaust, 3 Core Radiator
You don't need to get a SYE for a 3-3.5" lift. Even on a 96+ XJ that has the shorter tail housing on the transfer case, you don't need to do the outrageous cost of SYE with that mild of a lift. What you will need to do is combine a 1" cross member drop kit with a set of 4 degree shims between your rear axle and leaf springs to point the pinion up a bit. This will virtually eliminate your vibes. I have that same set up with a 6" lift and no vibes. I have the older style tail housing on my 91 but, I think this will work fine for you with a 3-3.5" lift. This will get you lifted and back on the road, then start saving for your SYE.
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From: Phoenix AZ
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6ho
You don't need to get a SYE for a 3-3.5" lift. Even on a 96+ XJ that has the shorter tail housing on the transfer case, you don't need to do the outrageous cost of SYE with that mild of a lift. What you will need to do is combine a 1" cross member drop kit with a set of 4 degree shims between your rear axle and leaf springs to point the pinion up a bit. This will virtually eliminate your vibes. I have that same set up with a 6" lift and no vibes. I have the older style tail housing on my 91 but, I think this will work fine for you with a 3-3.5" lift. This will get you lifted and back on the road, then start saving for your SYE.

At 1.5" mine "needed" an SYE... I tried the drop, combined with shim...
As several have noted, the combination of drivetrain components.
Additionally, the older style tail housing is the shorter unit that is less prone to vib's, the newer ones are not only longer, but the output shaft is longer as well.
I'm being as polite as I can, but you have given inaccurate information.


